This thread is specifically for people who think JK Rowling is awful so..

Genuine question, are you aware of the autogynephiles?

In what way was it different to how you treated the men?

How do you treat women that's different to how you treat men?

Do you? Do you treat every single person you ever meet as individuals?

I met many new people this week. Some were trans women. As I didn't know them, I treated them in the same way I treated the other women. Which was different to how I treated the men. Obviously this all changes when you get to know people.

I have always believed that trans women are trans women, but I treat them the same as other women in my life. I don't treat them as men

What's the difference?

And in what sense are they 'not men'?

I don't think many of the people with a grudge against JKR will be arriving to this thread.

However, this forum has a long list of perceived grievances against her, from her haters:
https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughJKRowling/

To be honest it's quite amazing how they spin her every utterance into some sort of evil.

I do love Glinner & have been following him since very early on in the gender war battle. I support his substack etc, I've met him, had a drink etc. I'm 100% thankful for all he has done and I feel very badly for how he has been treated. He has suffered a personal cost for sure.

But I do cringe when Glinner begs from crumbs/praise/support from JKR & I really really wish he wouldn't do this. I'm sure she has reasons, and she is perfectly entitled to them. She does not have to explian herself. All JKR does is pretty well considered - and Glinner publically calling for her to support him like he has been doing for some time now is bad taste IMO.

This thread could have worked is others had had faith in the OP. Its like everytime there's a thread about JKR or KJK there are always the hijackers who insinuate something terrible about them.

Had the thread been allowed to just be a list of the supposedly bad things JKR had done or is doing, it probably wouldn't even have been a page of posts.

And in terms of rebuttal, it would have been easy to then just add a list of all the threads illustrating what JKR has contributed.

The knee jerk reaction that everything has to be responded to in depth in fact isn't always the answer. Which is why so many threads get hijacked so easily.

It would have been really interesting to see if anyone actually had anything based on reality that she has done wrong in terms of her public personna.

What a shame to OP didn't work.

This just sounds sexist - surely you treat people as individuals?

It’s understandable that if you’ve believed something for 30 years that turns out not to be true, that’s got to be difficult to accept. You don’t have to start abusing women on here for stating facts. You need to blame the people that sold you the lie.

If I knew all the answers I would be much more highly paid than I am.

Regarding the sport. I said assigned at birth to mean what ever was put on their birth certificate at birth. I said it wasn't perfect as there have been some high profile cases of elite athletes. I am not involved with sport at a professional or elite level particularly. My point was, entirely, that at amateur and youth level, you make the rules and hope people stick to them as there is nothing else to be done. And that I got off my arse, and did something to help clarify rules to protect women.

At the end of the day, it's down to exactly this sort of gender-stereotyped social attitude.
This is the whole of the problem. Everything else has grown from it.

About 3 or 4 years ago (or thereabouts) I was discussing my shock at friends' posts on Facebook that apparently JKR was transphobic. My DH was a bit ahead of me on this news and challenged me to find one thing JKR had said that was transphobic.
I read through the letter and her Twitter.
I had a realisation that there was no transphobia, and the scales fell from my eyes.
I do encourage everyone to challenge themselves to actually go and find for themselves (not via a third party) what she's ever said that was transphobic.

It may or may not have happened, but if it did then quietly deleting the retweet, after having realised with some embarrassment that it's a load of nonsense, is what most people would do. Who amongst us hasn't shared or liked something incorrect on social media and removed it later. Can't get it right all the time.

I think we can all agree that JK Rowling does not agree with all women.

Without more information on your example, it's impossible to know what point you are making.

Which, to be fair, makes complete sense as everyone knows that they are.

The question is why is the poster tying themselves in knots trying to pretend that they aren't.

In what ways do you treat the men and women in your life differently? (All else being equal, I mean)

And then, did you know these trans women in your life pre-transition? Did you go instantly from treating them as in the "men" camp to treating them as in the "women" camp?

I don't see why you would need to treat men and women differently in social situations.

Does gender not matter in social situations? I treat the trans women in my life exactly the same way I treat any other woman. I treat the trans men exactly the same way as I treat men socially.

At the end of the day, it is all down to how you treat people.

But refused to provide any evidence.

"Transphobic" has taken on a meaning similar to "heretic", so by that understanding we're all transphobic here, as is JKR, for rejecting gender identity ideological beliefs.

It was fricking glorious

I too think she's awful. I'm in awe of her. Awww how great is she? Awe-ltogether a topp individual awe-ll round yes.

123 awwwwwww

What hatred? Can you give some examples?