This thread is specifically for people who think JK Rowling is awful so..

And nothing could’ve changed in that time?

Primark started selling Harry Potter merch in 2017.

So you know that she directly benefits from exploitative child labour do you? You absolutely KNOW that, and can prove it? Because that sounds very like defamation to me if you don’t have the receipts.

What are your feelings about doctors who profit from removing the healthy breasts of neurodivergent teenage girls, by telling them they’re born in the wrong body? What are your feelings about the grifter lawyer who has received £4 million in donations from vulnerable people and takes frivolous cases to court that he can’t and doesn’t win?

Because if we’re going to have a debate let’s do it properly.

That article is 7 years old…

Wonderful, and do you think this one Scottish company generates enough profit for Primark to buy the expensive HP licensing, or do they use their other profits from less reputable factories to put towards it?

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/fashion/child-labour-primark-topshop-sustainable-fashion-industry-m-and-s-select-committee-parliament-a8654026.html

Just one example here, loopholes allowing children as young as 14 to "legally" work in factories, and Primark don't deny this.

It’s a Scottish company that make all the clothes associated with the franchise too, but no doubt some posters don’t have time to look that up.

H&M group statement -

https://hmgroup.com/sustainability/standards-and-policies/modern-slavery-statement/

Profit in what way?

How certain are you that Primark, H&M (do they still HP stuff) use child slave labour? A quick google shows that Primark doesn’t. From their website -

We ban the use of child labour anywhere in the Primark supply chain – it is unacceptable. This is clearly set out in the Primark Code of Conduct, which is based on standards set by the Ethical Trading Initiative (ETI) and the International Labour Organisation (ILO).
Every one of our suppliers and their factories must follow our Code of Conduct which covers areas such as pay, employment policies, the right to join a union, and health & safety – including minimum age requirements. We do a formal inspection of every factory against the Code before we will place any orders. We have our own dedicated team of 130 experts based in key sourcing countries who are responsible for more than 2,000 inspections every year. These inspections allow us to get a detailed picture of what conditions are like inside both new and approved factories and are vital in allowing us to check that our standards are being met.

Is she responsible for knock offs too? Maybe best to list what she isn’t responsible for at this stage.

'In Scotland, Multiple Sclerosis (MS) is more prevalent in women than men, with a national female-to-male ratio of 2.3:1. Scotland also has one of the highest rates of MS diagnoses in the world'. JKR has made Scotland a world leader in MS research.

https://clinical-brain-sciences.ed.ac.uk/news-archive-2014-2021/news-jul-dec-2019/jk-rowling-donates-further-ps15m-multiple-sclerosis

Funds the only single sex rape crisis service in Edinburgh and the Lothians (totally. Down to the teabags)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-63943766.amp

Helped to fund a rescue mission to get women lawyers out of Afghanistan -

https://www.sundaypost.com/fp/harry-potter-author-jk-rowling-helped-afghan-lawyers-flee-the-taliban/

Has set up a legal fund to help women facing discrimination by their employers and services which fail to provide single sex services as stated in the EQA2010 and which was clarified as having always should have been the case since 2010 as was clarified in the Supreme Court
judgement

https://www.thenational.scot/news/25190054.jk-rowling-fund-gender-critical-womens-cases-employers/

Lumos - We shed light on the root causes of family separation – poverty, conflict and discrimination. We press and support governments to reform care systems and show how children can be safely united with families.

Volent - Helping to alleviate social deprivation primarily across Scotland, particularly supporting women, children and young people at risk.

But, I mean, what.a.bitch, right? /s

I don't, and I actually agreed with you about the sweatshops, and think that's terrible. I have no strong feelings on Rowling either way.

Look at just about any TRA who vocally targets JK Rowling, and I can bet you they won't have mentioned any of this stuff unless in a dig about her. However, they're exactly the people who are always banging on about "why doesn't she spend her time campaigning on X,Y,Z instead. They're hypocrites. That's all I was saying.

So a slightly snippy comment 5 years after they called her a bigot, for reasons that can only be presumed to be cowardice or stupidity.

These are all adults, but you seem to have different expectations of Rowling.

For comparison, she has been commenting on politics for a long time, and is often quite barbed (e.g. comments on Corbyn), but many writers comment on politics.

They’re busy people, Reddit doesn’t run itself you know.

Two things can be true at once. It's not always an either/or situation. If you don't believe the entertainment industry has a well documented history of exploiting child actors, and that a decade long project in the current age of emboldened online negativity and sometimes outright bigotry, is going to most likely prove a challenging backdrop for these new child actors to grow up in, you are sadly mistaken.

Again, why are you focusing on other people and not on JK Rowling, in a thread about JK Rowling?

How do you know who people like me and others who see her hypocritical actions for what they are, aren't also involved in other types of campaign work? You don't, so focus on the woman we're discussing. I'm attempting to debate with you in good faith, but your need to divert away from JK Rowling's hypocrisy doesn't suggest you're doing the same.

Oh come on. The press loves them. Constantly repeating the fact that they have parroted meaningless platitudes like "trans women are women" and "trans people are so loved" without making even the slightest attempt to question whether what they said makes any sense.

The vast majority of the media paints them as the goodies and her as the baddie.

Wowser so JKR wrote books for children about children. Enjoyed universally by children, who may never have otherwise engaged in the literary word.

That were turned into films about children for children. That included children as actors who became very famous and wealthy.

And that is somehow an act of terrible exploitation. Even building a school for young protégés plucked out of obscurity, what a fucking outrage.

On the other hand trans ideology has recruited vulnerable children to bolster their self obsessed , sexual proclivities, saw to it that said children who fall in their thrall get sterilised, dance to the TRA tune and are impoverished, sexually, physically emotionally, and financially, and are alienated from their families.

Anyone who cannot see that stark comparators, who think they are somehow liberals are fucking fools of the first order.

So they don’t exist then? Got it 👍

So, again, aspersions are being made with no evidence to back them up?

And I don't see any of the people who hate Rowling campaigning against child actors or slave labour, which is weird because, by their logic, this makes them really bad people, right? I mean, they're always berating Rowling (and the rest of us) for focusing on this one topic and ignoring poverty or whatever, so shouldn't they be doing likewise?

Ooh I love clues, do tell.

Can you please read my posts fully instead of picking one quote out from each and attempting to "gotcha" me? I have no idea whether they regret it, I don't know them. I'm saying that if they did, they probably wouldn't be rushing to share that knowing how often the press manipulates their words and reduces complex sentiments down to a single clickbait headline.

Well the issue of major brands choosing to licence to less than squeaky clean companies is a much bigger issue than JK Rowling (who isn't even involved in brand licensing anyway), isn't it?

If she hasn't shopped in Primark since 1996 she might not even be aware they sell Harry Potter T-shirts.

Frankly, if you wrote to everyone you could think of about this issue, she's probably the one person most likely to care and pay any attention to your letter. I doubt WB or Disney or Marvel would give a shit.

Yes, but again, that isn't on Rowling, is it?