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Richard Coles embarrassing himself

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LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 17/08/2025 18:08

Why do these mediocre men need to keep speaking? You’d think this was written by a 12 year old, who uses the word ‘baddie’ ffs? 🤦‍♀️ It’s so full of virtue signalling, ‘look at me with all these young people showing them how cool I am’ it’s absolutely tragic.

Richard Coles embarrassing himself
OP posts:
LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 18/08/2025 07:29

Sux2buthen · 17/08/2025 18:50

Hes not his brother so that’s irrelevant.

much like this thread

Off you pop then.

OP posts:
ResidentPorker · 18/08/2025 06:29

nauticant · 17/08/2025 18:28

Richard Coles has an incredibly sinister brother who is no stranger to causing harm to women: campaignopposingpolicesurveillance.com/2024/12/18/undercover-policing-inquiry-andy-coles-primer/

And? Are we suddenly responsible for our siblings’ actions?

DworkinWasRight · 18/08/2025 06:14

It’s quite obvious that he means it in an “aren’t young people funny” kind of way.

CurlewKate · 18/08/2025 05:28

I find it extraordinary that anyone can say “gay men weren’t treated badly during the ‘80s!!”

KatyPerimenopause · 17/08/2025 22:55

Menopausalsourpuss · 17/08/2025 21:49

This is all kinds of wrong. For a start gay men weren't treated badly durng the 80s (I was there). You sound like you get your "facts" from BBC dramas. And most people see JKR as able to tell truth to power because she is so rich that she can't be cancelled unlike other more lowly women. I have seen her being rude to India willoughby on X but he is pretty nasty himself to women like KJK. So horses for courses.

Read Simon Garfield's The End of innocence, then get back to me.
Gay men weren't treated badly?
James Anderton talking about a "cesspit of their own making," Maggie saving his job, gay plague headlines, ignorance and a lack of support from public health officials, clause 28 and the damage it caused. The stigma of that period in the UK and across the pond causing internalised homophobia and shame. I was in Manchester. I attended Pride with the choir singing Tell me there's a heaven, whilst a friend of mine sobbed. I taught during that period and had to protect a gay student of mine, each and every lunchtime. Where the hell were you?

Waitwhat23 · 17/08/2025 21:53

She could not give less of a shit about women’s rights

'In Scotland, Multiple Sclerosis (MS) is more prevalent in women than men, with a national female-to-male ratio of 2.3:1. Scotland also has one of the highest rates of MS diagnoses in the world'. JKR funds Scotland to be a world leader in MS research -

https://clinical-brain-sciences.ed.ac.uk/news-archive-2014-2021/news-jul-dec-2019/jk-rowling-donates-further-ps15m-multiple-sclerosis

Funds the only single sex rape crisis service in Edinburgh and the Lothians (totally. Down to the teabags)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-63943766.amp

Helped to fund a rescue mission to get women lawyers out of Afghanistan -

https://www.sundaypost.com/fp/harry-potter-author-jk-rowling-helped-afghan-lawyers-flee-the-taliban/

And there's Volent - https://volanttrust.org/
'Helping to alleviate social deprivation primarily across Scotland, particularly supporting women, children and young people at risk.'
And Lumos -

https://www.wearelumos.org/

'We shed light on the root causes of family separation – poverty, conflict and discrimination. We press and support governments to reform care systems and show how children can be safely united with families.'

But yeah, because she supports women's legal right to single sex services (as per the EQA2010), she's the devil.

I'm not rolling my eyes, honestly...

Menopausalsourpuss · 17/08/2025 21:49

Tunnocksmallow · 17/08/2025 21:28

Aww, thanks for that.
Why answer in such a fired up way? What I wrote in my post didn’t really deserve such vitriol.

You seem to have a lot of anger/derision towards people that don’t follow your view/opinion, and the views of JKR. Are you ok?

Im asking because yes, I find her views hateful. She sends out dog whistles so people pile on those she doesn’t like. She walks that very very fine line of saying just the right things so people pick up exactly what she is putting down.
And she is loving watching all her minions getting stirred up every time she puts her finger on a keyboard. She just sits back and watches, laughing. She could not give less of a shit about women’s rights.
in 40 years we will look back, horrified at how we treated other humans just for being different and be ashamed at the suffering we caused. Exactly how we look back now at how people treated gay men during the AIDS crisis.

But honestly, you don’t need to punch low about ethics and intelligence if someone says something about your Queen; because that says more about you than me.

This is all kinds of wrong. For a start gay men weren't treated badly durng the 80s (I was there). You sound like you get your "facts" from BBC dramas. And most people see JKR as able to tell truth to power because she is so rich that she can't be cancelled unlike other more lowly women. I have seen her being rude to India willoughby on X but he is pretty nasty himself to women like KJK. So horses for courses.

Waitwhat23 · 17/08/2025 21:47

100% there is some sort of alert on Reddit when any thread on here mentions JKR. It's so very predictable.

attention, attention! Get thee to Mumsnet!!'

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Azandme · 17/08/2025 21:44

There are a lot of offensive posts on social media, this isn't one of them.

This post is, however, proof that some people will froth at anything. Good lord.

Screamingabdabz · 17/08/2025 21:42

CurlewKate · 17/08/2025 20:00

He’s also in a relationship with Richard Cant, son of Brian, for the older members of the group.

Loved Brain Cant. As a child he was the kind of man I was going to grow up and marry! (Kind, handsome, twinkle in his eye).

As for JKR - she most definitely is a Baddie B to me! The woman is a bloody legend, a hero and a fucking warrior for women’s rights. Those who have a problem with her ‘views’ must have a problem with the innate laws of nature, physics, the universe. Reality denying dimwits.

LlynTegid · 17/08/2025 21:36

If we were to judge a person by how their brother behaves, I don't think the Coles family would be first on the list.

MarieDeGournay · 17/08/2025 21:35

AtomicBlondeRose · 17/08/2025 18:28

Baddie is a compliment in gen z slang!

It might well be, but Coles clearly isn't using it in a positive way here.

The word 'but' in the sentence means that the second part contradicts the first part, so [positive statement] they know HP inside out BUT they think JKR is a baddie.[negative statement]

If he was using 'baddie' as a Gen Z compliment to JKR he would have said that they know HP inside out AND they think JKR is a baddie.

Funnywonder · 17/08/2025 21:29

LastKnownSurvivor · 17/08/2025 20:10

P L A Y, playaway, play, play away ...😆

It’s now going through my head. Cheers for that🎵🎵

Tunnocksmallow · 17/08/2025 21:28

hihelenhi · 17/08/2025 20:49

Except JKR isn't a "hateful woman" at all. Unlike those who hate on her obsessively, send violent threats, spread lies and disinformation about her, her politics and her motives, and more often than not appear a) to be incapable of even reading what she's actually said b) to be largely factually, historically and scientifically illiterate c) to be unable to give the tiniest shit about equality, the actual law, or human rights for women and girls in the real world.

But, sure thing, some of us are clearly "hateful" in observing that the JKR-fixation is basically a propagandist witch-hunt by lazy bigoted people who erroneously imagine they're righteous and clever but seem to demonstrate few critical thinking skills, let alone ethics or intelligence.

Aww, thanks for that.
Why answer in such a fired up way? What I wrote in my post didn’t really deserve such vitriol.

You seem to have a lot of anger/derision towards people that don’t follow your view/opinion, and the views of JKR. Are you ok?

Im asking because yes, I find her views hateful. She sends out dog whistles so people pile on those she doesn’t like. She walks that very very fine line of saying just the right things so people pick up exactly what she is putting down.
And she is loving watching all her minions getting stirred up every time she puts her finger on a keyboard. She just sits back and watches, laughing. She could not give less of a shit about women’s rights.
in 40 years we will look back, horrified at how we treated other humans just for being different and be ashamed at the suffering we caused. Exactly how we look back now at how people treated gay men during the AIDS crisis.

But honestly, you don’t need to punch low about ethics and intelligence if someone says something about your Queen; because that says more about you than me.

ThePoshUns · 17/08/2025 21:14

Why is JKR preventing them from buying a house?

LizzieSiddal · 17/08/2025 21:09

Needmorelego · 17/08/2025 18:38

What's the back story of the group he is with?
Who are they?
Local book club?
Church group (he is a Vicar after all)?
Local litter picking group?
Is he running the group as the leader (so that's why everyone else is younger?)

I think one of his (terrible) books is being turned into a TV series. Maybe these people are working on it?

Frankenpug23 · 17/08/2025 20:59

I believe he has also apologised for the incident you mention OP and has said it was one of the worst things he has done.

He has addressed it many times!!

And how on earth is his brother being creepy anything to do with him? They are adults??? He isn’t his brother’s keeper - is he??

You have far too much time on your hands!

LeonMccogh · 17/08/2025 20:56

TyroleanKnockabout · 17/08/2025 20:54

I’ve got the impression before now that he’s on our side actually (I think he might have endorsed the Witch Trials podcast?) and this hasn’t changed my mind!

Nor mine, I wouldn’t be at all shocked if he knew full well what “baddie” means in Gen Z terms…

TyroleanKnockabout · 17/08/2025 20:54

I’ve got the impression before now that he’s on our side actually (I think he might have endorsed the Witch Trials podcast?) and this hasn’t changed my mind!

LeonMccogh · 17/08/2025 20:54

SeriouslyStressed · 17/08/2025 18:34

Exactly!! I don’t think he realises! Ha

Or perhaps he does and is a secret fan…!?

hihelenhi · 17/08/2025 20:52

As for the Rev Coles, he appeared from that comment to be sitting firmly on the fence. Merely saying it did not suggest he agreed with them, but I think it's vile that they have clearly been so indoctrinated to hate her. He's kind of feeding it by posting that comment, unless he's questioning it with them.

Justwrong68 · 17/08/2025 20:50

PermanentTemporary · 17/08/2025 18:35

He’s not saying that he agrees with them.

If you haven’t understood what the standard view of JKR is in that age group, at least in public, you’re in a bubble.

You’re in a bubble of people who say they’re against JKR without explaining why.

hihelenhi · 17/08/2025 20:49

Tunnocksmallow · 17/08/2025 18:26

Oh come on. He’s stating that he’s sat around a table with people of different generations. There are differences. He’s acknowledging that they grew up on Harry Potter, but disagree with JKR. Ok, he used the word baddie, no need for the snark. He’s a man of the cloth, he’s hardly going to be calling her a C*nt is he? Especially if those kids are going to look that post up. He’s having some respect for their ages and their parents, who he probably doesn’t wish to fall out with.

And I don’t actually know where he stands on the Trans debate.

I find him to actually be quite a nuanced, respectful and funny man when I’ve heard him talking about things. This, isn’t something to waste energy on.

What I’m saying is; if it were me, there’s plenty worse words I would’ve used to describe the hateful woman.

Except JKR isn't a "hateful woman" at all. Unlike those who hate on her obsessively, send violent threats, spread lies and disinformation about her, her politics and her motives, and more often than not appear a) to be incapable of even reading what she's actually said b) to be largely factually, historically and scientifically illiterate c) to be unable to give the tiniest shit about equality, the actual law, or human rights for women and girls in the real world.

But, sure thing, some of us are clearly "hateful" in observing that the JKR-fixation is basically a propagandist witch-hunt by lazy bigoted people who erroneously imagine they're righteous and clever but seem to demonstrate few critical thinking skills, let alone ethics or intelligence.

deadpan · 17/08/2025 20:41

He's previously said that he found a podcast with jkr very interesting and informative, basically code for I don't mind the things she's saying. Devina McCall also said a similar thing about the same podcast. I know he can be a luvvy, but I don't think he's making a massive statement with this tbh.
And the person who's posted about his dodgy brother, what does that prove? I have a really horrible sister but I'm not horrible.

LindorDoubleChoc · 17/08/2025 20:40

I think you've misunderstood OP and are, in fact, embarrassing yourself.

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