At least 50% of men get vaginal thrush

Sorry this is my lawyerly pedantry no doubt but my point was that the tweet said that 75% of people were affected by vaginal thrush, not that 75% pf people have vaginal thrush. Therefore there is no need to re-label it. A male who gets thrush from a female with vaginal thrush might not have "vaginal thrush" but they have most certainly been affected by vaginal thrush because its caused them to have thrush.

Point remains that males can be affected by it and this isn't uncommon.

If the author is trying to be "inclusive" and these stats only relate to biological females then presumably it's to bring transmen (ie females) into the equation without having to overtly label them as women which many of them would object to. Personally I think that use of female and male as descriptors is the best way out of this ridiculous game of words.

according to the US CDC 75% of women will get VVC in their lifetime. Presumably this comes from the same source that McMaster university got theirs and they just clumsily wokified the wording for social media.

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@LoremIpsumCici if a man goes down on a women who had a current candida overgrowth in her vagina, and then sees his dentist for candida symptoms in his mouth. What are we calling it?
A) oral thrush
B) vaginal thrush

What should be written in his notes for sake of clarity and future reference? Won't people find it a little confusing looking at a mans dental notes stating the dentist diagnosed vaginal thrush... So many questions?!!

I have literally never heard this "convention". Have you, or are you juat applying an interpretation you feel could be true?

No that's not the convention. I'm well aware of penile and oral thrush and I've obviously heard where it came from being referred to in how one got infected, but I've never heard of thrush being classified by where the infection came from.

As far as I know you can't swab thrush on one part of the body and determine which different part of the body it originally came from because it's all the same organism.

www.webdoctor.ie/thrush-treatment/thrush-types-treatments

Vaginal thrush is thrush in a vagina, not thrush from a vagina.

Thrush on the penis is penile thrush.

Thrush in the mouth is oral thrush.

You matly treat them differently but you treat them based on where it is, not where it came from.

No one in medicine talks about "chest cancer". Medical and scientific language needs to be accurate, and academics should know this and apply this to their peer reviewed studies and their sound bite tweets too. If the last 10 years has taught you nothing else it should be the importance and power of language.

Ok fair enough. So it is only called vaginal when actually on a vagina.

I did say men get it too.
The point is that most diseases have names that point to the area where it most often manifests:
Thrush- that is most frequently in the vagina
Cancer in chest area- that is most frequently in breast tissue

There is no fault to assign by this naming convention, it merely reflects which sex is most at risk.

”it” clearly refers to vaginal thrush, not candida.
You can spontaneously develop vaginal thrush as it is an overgrowth of candida.

Men do get breast cancer, it involves the breast buds, so is definitely breast cancer, and should be called as such. So not sure where your are going with this.

Candida albicans is part of normal gut flora, no one spontaneously grows fungi.

Well no it couldn’t be just as easily called penile thrush because that would be like saying breast cancer could just as easily be called chest cancer because men get it too, and even though it is in far far fewer numbers, only men matter so let’s call it chest cancer.🤨

If it's passing back and forth, then it could just as easily be labelled penile thrush following the logic that it is okay to say men have vaginal thrush, which would be equally ridiculous, or how's about just calling it sexually transmitted thrush or just thrush for short.
But men do not have vaginas and therefore they do not have vaginal thrush!

It’s not “deeply misogynistic” to make a generalisation that is statistically and factually true. Women are most likely to spontaneously develop it, meaning men are most likely to acquire it from PIV sex.

You are reading too much into it to think there is a finger of blame to be pointed for thrush.

But the tweet says that 75% of people are affected by vaginal thrush at some stage in their life. Not that 75% of people have vaginal thrush. Vaginal thrush gets passed from females to males and back again. Thus the males are "affected" by vaginal thrush

I think there are plenty of objectionable (mis)uses of language due to gender nonsense but Im not sure this is actually one of them.

It matters because not all penile thrush is vaginal in origin. Calling it vaginal thrush is deeply misogynistic. It may be the result of anal sex between men, immunocompromise, yeast overgrowth in diabetics, yeast over growth in antibiotic use, poor hygiene. It should not be called vaginal as this is deliberately misleading and insinuating blame on women.

It is associated sexual activity. The only reason it isn’t classed as an STI is because that isn’t the most common way to end up with it as usually it is caused by an overgrowth of the candida above normal levels.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/thrush-in-men-and-women/

NHS just calls it “thrush” perhaps the tweet should have just dropped the vaginal if people are being offended over “vaginal”

Come on, in common discourse candida infections anywhere on the genitals are always referred to as vaginal thrush.

I can imagine the complaining about comms if they had put “75% of people suffer from a candida infection at some time in their life” in a tweet!

It doesn’t make knowledge accessible to use Latin ffs in tweets to the masses, many of whom don’t have any biology after age 16.

It's a fungus not a bacteria.

It is commonly candida albicans, and can be found at multiple sites around the body, not associated with the vagina or sexual activity.

I thought it was the culture of the bacteria and it was named after vaginas because that's where it comes from? I know oral thrush but it's different? So they're saying the men catch vaginal thrush. Which is true? Maybe it gets called something else when it's on a penis, but it's the same thing?

No it's not called vaginal thrush if it isn't in the vagina. It is candida albicans (or occasionally another rarer type of candida fungus). If it is in the oral cavity it is not vaginal thrush, if it is in the oesophagus it is not vaginal thrush, of it is in the penis it is not vaginal thrush.

Men do NOT ever have vaginal thrush.

It is impossible to fit an entire research study in a tweet. 🤪
The tweet is just meant to let you know it is published. I am 100% convinced your questions will be answered in the methodology and results sections.

I see nothing wrong with it..yes, men can get it off women. It's called vaginal thrush regardless of whether it's on a vagina or not, if it originated from one. So that statistic seems believable?
It's not saying men have vaginas?

Though they could spilt the figure by sex to give more information.

So does this mean that
A) 50% of xy men with penises get candida albicans
B) 50% of trans women with pseudo vaginas get thrush
C) 50% of trans men who are still complete with fully functioning vaginas get thrush

So maybe 150%* of women get vaginal thrush, and that doesn't even include the xx old school women out there. There is an epidemic of thrush, this is terrible news!

*I know that's not how statistics work, I'm being facetious, but Mcmasters university don't seem to know how biology or language works, so...