Virgin Active update their T&C to explicitly state members must use changing spaces that reflect biological sex. Wording is very clear. "By Law" (Title edited by MNHQ at request of OP)

Gosh, GLP and the fox botherer are really itching to get sued. I hope Virgin don't take the bait.

Now that the law is crystal clear the cases they can pursue as claimants are limited. So they need some to defend. Those lawyers gotta get their fees somehow.

😂😂 I still miss the laugh emoji.

And this one. 😁

I thought it was going to be a bit of creative graffiti - like the feminists who went around adding bits to existing ads, like this famous one.
But breaking into an advertising panel and putting in their own is a different matter. Less creative too!

Honestly just glancing at it, like most busy Londoners, I'd have thought it was an advert for Virgin Active. 😅

"Don't follow transphobes follow the law". Fab. How many people are gonna bother with the small print...

OMG. Total cray-cray.

Which law do GLP think they should be following?! They are utterly bat shit aren’t they.

They can't. They are defaming Virgin.

What utter nutters GLP are

Isn’t that statement about who can use which changing rooms clear, simple and unambiguous? Not complicated at all innit?

But but but Virgin Active are following The Law, and they haven't banned anyone ... they just expect them to follow the law and use the correct changing room.

How can GLP claim other wise?

https://x.com/GoodLawProject/status/1970878903171604814?t=Lwf53Oghrsq2NhQYc4SWwQ&s=19

Couldn't Virgin sue them for this stuff?

Isn't this vandalism / fly posting without permission and couldn't they be done for that too?

And the known battshittery that is Lush.

If I remember correctly, with the exception of student unions, the majority of those businesses are one man bands / small businesses with few if any employees and likely a toilet in their own home where they work from 😂

Not sure they represent much more than 650 mates of mates.

Perhaps what-his-name who owns Virgin could have a word with the
More than 650 organisations have urged Bridget Phillipson to ‘take immediate action to prevent these proposals from moving forward’
because they claim
“The proposals made in the EHRC’s draft Code of Practice under the Equality Act would have serious and far-reaching consequences for UK businesses, our employees, and our customers.
Hundreds of firms warn new guidance on single sex spaces is ‘unworkable’ and would cause ‘significant economic harm’ | Mumsnet

He could tell them to calm, down, dears, Virgin did it and the sky didn't fall in...so to speak.

Gosh what a dishonest and incoherent rant.

So asking for the law to be enforced is transphobic 🤔

They were correct in one sentence - the law hasn’t changed. But the law has never ever said that people can use the spaces ‘of their choice’ - what absolute numpties.

With this response,

• In the interim period, we recommend that facility operators manage situations on a case-by-case basis, acting with sensitivity and understanding to continue to ensure all customers are treated with dignity and respect, and are supported while policies are under review. The EHRC states that employers and other duty-bearers must follow the law and should take appropriate specialist legal advice where necessary. Please refer to the interim update provided by the EHRC on Friday 25 April for further information until full guidance is provided

what's remarkable is that Virgin is actually paying UKActive for a service in which they are

1. wrong (yet again) in the advice they give: "case-by-case", and
2. passing along the free advice the EHRC is providing which is to pay someone with legal expertise who will (unlike UKActive) give you actual legitimate information on policy.

Why exactly does Virgin retain a relationship with UKActive, an organization that's caused great harm to their brand, put them in legal jeopardy and is exerting a pernicious influence on the rest of the industry. Why aren't organizations like UKActive - who exist to help businesses like Virgin, for a membership fee(!), but end up harming them instead - held to account to face consequences?

Thank you @EyesOpening and @LeftieRightsHoarder for your suggestions - I will follow both :-)
Will contact Sex Matters for advice, and if/when there is any update I will start new thread!
Thx again!

Thanks, Arabella- I just use Doc T as an Inspirational Text😁

I often watch Free Speech Nation too. I have even sat in on a recording of an episode when I attended Battle of Ideas.

It saddens me to read I cannot put into words how much I despise GBNews and it's entire viewership because it illustrates our difficult struggle to regain women's rights.

"Proper" news outlets won't cover the issues so people assume we are loonies when we bring issues up. "What are you on about? This never happens. You must be a conspiracy loon".

GB News does cover it, and well, but anyone who watches it is considered despicable and...a conspiracy loon.

Heads you win tails I lose.

UKActive signposted Stonewall and Gendered Intelligence in their 'Guidance For Front Line Staff To Assist Trans People To Access Leisure Facilities', so I imagine they outsourced their thinking to the activists, just as the Leisure Centres outsourced theirs to UKActive.

The EHRC should shoulder much of the blame. It's guidance at the time opened all the doors for the activists.

That could risk being 'indirect discrimination'. A lack of provision for women where there is adequate for males would not be fair.

A note that building regs differ throughout the UK. The ones you posted are for England, Marie.

Building regs re toilet provision was updated in 2024 -

2024 edition This approved document supports Part T of Schedule 1 to the Building Regulations 2010. This approved document takes effect on 1 October 2024 for use in England. Full details of the transitional arrangements can be found in Circular 02/2024 published on gov.uk.
Toilet accommodation: Approved Document T

I'm not an expert on UK Building Regs, to say the least, though I seem to have the URL of Doc T on speed-dial😁and I know the regs have limited application, i.e. mostly new builds.

However I think they are useful in that the 2024 update strongly reinforced the primacy of single-sex toilet provision in public buildings - yes you can have unisex facilities as well as, but, as I understand it, only in the case of a lack of space can you have them instead of single sex facilities.

'Document T' is an assertion that the standard, and the 'direction of travel' in the future, is single-sex toilets, and it's valuable for that reason alone.

There are other regulations that cover single sex facilities - workplace regs, health and safety, equality legislation - so it's always worth looking at the full range of relevant regs rather than - as has happened a lot in the wake of the SC ruling - just the Equality Act to make a case.

@RoastOrMash , your post is worth starting a new thread, as you’ll get more replies.
If you go up to the top of the page and click on the downward arrow beside Feminism: Sex and gender discussions, it gives you the Start a new thread option.
Good luck with your case.