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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

If I lose this case, councils can shut women’s spaces at will

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LCommunity · 14/08/2025 17:29

I’m the founder of L Community, a women-only lesbian network. Earlier this year I applied to convert a disused council-controlled railway arch into a female-only lesbian venue. It met every legal test under Schedule 3 of the Equality Act 2010 – same-sex only, necessary for privacy and dignity, no mixed-sex access.

For the application, I identified specific arches that would be suitable, but made clear I would take any appropriate building if an arch was not possible. An arch is simply the lowest baseline in terms of cost and fit-out. Southwark Council still refused. They’ve given arches to LGBTQ+ groups, but in my case said they owned none – even though their own asset register lists hundreds. They also refused to carry out the Equality Impact Assessment they are legally required to do.

I’ve now exhausted their complaints process and have lawyers taking this forward. We are preparing for a judicial review of their decision, which would be the first case of its kind. If it succeeds, it will set a binding precedent forcing every local authority in the UK to apply Schedule 3 equally for women-only spaces.

Has anyone else here seen their own council refuse a lawful single-sex space? What happened, and how was it handled?

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Helleofabore · 14/08/2025 20:18

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LCommunity · 14/08/2025 20:16

GarlicLitre · 14/08/2025 20:11

According to Southwark's published data, it owns nine railway arches. I don't know what 'controlled' means here.

Southwark’s public asset register only lists nine arches, but they own hundreds. The one I applied for is among them.

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LCommunity · 14/08/2025 20:13

GarlicLitre · 14/08/2025 20:10

I've just found a Twitter thread containing a co-ordinated smear by women whose work I admire.

I don't know Aja, Jo Bartosch, Sall Grover or Dr Em personally. I understand that activism in a politically risky area makes people cautious. But if you believe they're victimising you, Jenny, have you explained somewhere why this might be so?

This thread is about Southwark Council’s refusal to provide a lawful single-sex space. I’m not going to be drawn into side issues that distract from that. The facts of the Southwark case are public and backed by legal documents.

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GarlicLitre · 14/08/2025 20:11

PlanetJanette · 14/08/2025 20:02

For some reason the embedded link didn’t show. This is what is was referring to:

https://thelcommunity.com/southwark-council-claimed-they-dont-control-the-arches/

So are you asking for property owned by the council or just property that you think per the link is ‘controlled’ by the council?

According to Southwark's published data, it owns nine railway arches. I don't know what 'controlled' means here.

EnjoythemoneyJane · 14/08/2025 20:11

Wishing you all the best, Jenny. Absolutely insane to think this is where we are with a council like Southwark, that would have been falling over its own fucking feet not that long ago to make space available for lesbian groups. Bit of a sidebar (sorry!), how did the picnic go? Did you manage to meet up without harassment?

GarlicLitre · 14/08/2025 20:10

MurkyWeather · 14/08/2025 20:00

There’s been a coordinated smear on social media

Are you saying LGB Alliance is smearing you?

I've just found a Twitter thread containing a co-ordinated smear by women whose work I admire.

I don't know Aja, Jo Bartosch, Sall Grover or Dr Em personally. I understand that activism in a politically risky area makes people cautious. But if you believe they're victimising you, Jenny, have you explained somewhere why this might be so?

PlanetJanette · 14/08/2025 20:02

PlanetJanette · 14/08/2025 19:38

This is all a bit confused.

Did you request an arch owned by the Council, or an arch controlled (you say…) by the Council?

Your explanation here is all about why you consider the arches to be controlled by the council rather than owned by it.

Edited

For some reason the embedded link didn’t show. This is what is was referring to:

https://thelcommunity.com/southwark-council-claimed-they-dont-control-the-arches/

So are you asking for property owned by the council or just property that you think per the link is ‘controlled’ by the council?

Helleofabore · 14/08/2025 20:00

MurkyWeather · 14/08/2025 19:50

Yes, that would be gardening 'due diligence' too

Most definitely. Searching for background is vital.

MurkyWeather · 14/08/2025 20:00

There’s been a coordinated smear on social media

Are you saying LGB Alliance is smearing you?

LCommunity · 14/08/2025 19:57

GarlicLitre · 14/08/2025 19:38

Link? My AS threw nothing up. Jenny's mentioned in a few threads as showing courage and initiative on behalf of lesbians. There were also a couple of Dark Hints about her, with no substantiation, that look like a low-key effort at reputation smearing. This couldn't be what you're trying to do, could it?

I didn't read all 1,052 results. Feel free to double-check:
https://www.mumsnet.com/search/advanced#/?query=Jenny+Watson&type=all&topics=Feminism%253A%2520chat%252CFeminism%253A%2520Sex%2520and%2520gender%2520discussions&page=1&sort=_search

There’s been a coordinated smear on social media tied to a safeguarding complaint I made. The Charity Commission opened a case in one working day – fewer than 1% of complaints get through that quickly and are already requesting information that crosses into matters handled by other agencies.

This was not a step I wanted to take. After my medical data was leaked online by the charity’s press officer – and they refused to remove it or condemn it – I had no choice, particularly with the Southwark case imminent.

The essentials are on file with the Commission and supported by evidence. I’m happy to outline the broad context if it helps put minds at rest.

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Igmum · 14/08/2025 19:55

titchy · 14/08/2025 19:37

Your CJ fundraiser linked to doesn’t work…

It worked for me titchy - just Google searched by name and the CJ site was maybe the third on the list

MurkyWeather · 14/08/2025 19:50

Helleofabore · 14/08/2025 19:45

And about previous fund raising.

Yes, that would be gardening 'due diligence' too

LCommunity · 14/08/2025 19:47

Helleofabore · 14/08/2025 19:40

As with all poster’s causes, we should all do our own research on who we donate money to. And not just Advanced search on MN.

Edited

Absolutely – and for transparency, all funds on my case go directly into my solicitor’s client account for legal action. I receive no personal benefit.

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Helleofabore · 14/08/2025 19:45

MurkyWeather · 14/08/2025 19:44

I just thought MNetters should know this before gardening

And about previous fund raising.

LCommunity · 14/08/2025 19:45

titchy · 14/08/2025 19:37

Your CJ fundraiser linked to doesn’t work…

Thanks for pointing that out, I've just fixed it.

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MurkyWeather · 14/08/2025 19:44

I just thought MNetters should know this before gardening

LCommunity · 14/08/2025 19:41

MurkyWeather · 14/08/2025 19:29

A poster on earlier thread accused OP of complaining to the Charity Commission about LGBA. Would you like to address that, Jenny? @LCommunity

Yes – but only after exhausting every route to resolve it directly with LGB Alliance. It concerns the leaking of my medical data and other safeguarding breaches. I made it clear that if it wasn’t removed, I’d have no choice but to escalate.

The Charity Commission opened a case in one working day. Over 90% of complaints fail triage, and fewer than 1% are opened that quickly. They’ve already started asking about police matters, which speaks for itself.

It was important to get this resolved now, given I’m legally escalating with Southwark Council.

This is entirely separate from the Southwark case.

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NewmummyJ · 14/08/2025 19:40

titchy · 14/08/2025 19:37

Your CJ fundraiser linked to doesn’t work…

Came to say the same, neither funding links work.
What world do we actually live in where lesbians have to campaign to have women only dating events. Like seriously this is pure insanity.

Helleofabore · 14/08/2025 19:40

As with all poster’s causes, we should all do our own research on who we donate money to. And not just Advanced search on MN.

GarlicLitre · 14/08/2025 19:38

MurkyWeather · 14/08/2025 19:29

A poster on earlier thread accused OP of complaining to the Charity Commission about LGBA. Would you like to address that, Jenny? @LCommunity

Link? My AS threw nothing up. Jenny's mentioned in a few threads as showing courage and initiative on behalf of lesbians. There were also a couple of Dark Hints about her, with no substantiation, that look like a low-key effort at reputation smearing. This couldn't be what you're trying to do, could it?

I didn't read all 1,052 results. Feel free to double-check:
https://www.mumsnet.com/search/advanced#/?query=Jenny+Watson&type=all&topics=Feminism%253A%2520chat%252CFeminism%253A%2520Sex%2520and%2520gender%2520discussions&page=1&sort=_search

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PlanetJanette · 14/08/2025 19:38

This is all a bit confused.

Did you request an arch owned by the Council, or an arch controlled (you say…) by the Council?

Your explanation here is all about why you consider the arches to be controlled by the council rather than owned by it.

titchy · 14/08/2025 19:37

Your CJ fundraiser linked to doesn’t work…

LCommunity · 14/08/2025 19:30

Igmum · 14/08/2025 19:04

Also bumping and happy to plant a few carrots should you require fresh veg 🥕🥕🥕

That’s really kind of you – thank you. If you Google ‘Jenny Watson Southwark’, the details should come up.

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MurkyWeather · 14/08/2025 19:29

A poster on earlier thread accused OP of complaining to the Charity Commission about LGBA. Would you like to address that, Jenny? @LCommunity

Feelingleftoutagain · 14/08/2025 19:19

I have no advice but wish you all the luck in the world, could a petition help? I would sign straight away!