Drag Queen on Strictly

That showdance was choreoed by Jason Gilkison, so I'd expect nothing less.
I still think it was important for young gay (and for some, possibly closeted) male viewers to get the chance with their mum to see a gay man unapologetically dancing with another gay man, on mainstream telly on a Saturday night.
And I don't see the issue with celebrating their sexual preference through the freedom and expression of dance. Because so many young men do not feel pride, they suffer from homophobia at school and that can become internalised homophobia.
I felt the same when Layton danced with Nikita. So many young, black men have not had that representation, not in the mainstream, not on a Saturday night.
I liked your post because I agree that sexual orientation should be unremarkable in this day and age but, in reality, in the classroom and on the playground that simply isn't true. It's getting better but we ain't there yet, where teens don't pass judgement.

You're attacking too many people you can't even keep us straight 😂 Never called you far right.

@ThatBlackCat I'm not even going to respond to you, complaining about misogyny while making multiple sexist comments to any woman who disagrees with you being on her knees and making offensive racist comments too. You must be near the limit of being deleted from this thread alone with all your personal attacks. Here's hoping.

I didn't say you were, I said if a person is. You're the one making the personal attacks. You're the one that accused me of being right wing. You keep personally attacking me and others for pointing out your lack of knowledge. Instead of doubling down, you could admit that you lack knowledge and experience in this. Instead of accusing people of being 'far right wing'. Thanks for reminding me to report that post though.

I'm not desperate for male approval and I'll be reporting your post, I notice you keep personally attacking a lot of people. You don't dismantle oppression by erasing it's history and minimising it. If you thought blackface was solely about mocking in a way that the two are at all comparable, I suggest you go and reread your history books.

Again you're equating the discomfort of western middle class white women with a drag performer with the systemic racism of American and the function blackface used in dehumanising people who were raped, lynched, murdered and enslaved men, women and children. If you genuinely can't critique it as a black woman without comparing it to literal blackface, you have some relaxing internalised racism inside of you really think women (all women) have historically been solely in the oppressed class.

Hint; you don't dismantle oppression by enabling men to mock us even if you're desperate for male approval.

Firstly, your ignorant assumption that I'm white shows your bigotry and naivette. No, I'm not white. Secondly, your ignorance as to the oppression and slavery of the female sex is both parts horrific and sad. Males have since time memorial enslaved females. Used rape as a tool. I know that too. As I'm a rape victim. Rape is also a weapon of war crime. But from the sounds of you I don't think you would even know this.

Women have been subjugated and enslaved. Mocking us via dressing up like us is a tool, a weapon and a signal of that subjugation and oppression. Drag is as deeply offensive and insulting to woman as blackface is to my race and fellow non-white people. Big tits. Talking about 'fishy' vaginas. Drag names like 'Anne Abortion'. 'Miss carriage'. 'Molestia child'. These are from the last 30 years. Even if those terms mean nothing to someone as ensconced in your echo chamber as you? Drag even before then is still deeply offensive.

I suggest before you lecture a non-white woman like me? You look in mirror and ask yourself why you are so desperate to seek accolades from a sex that rapes, assaults, murders and subjugates women by dressing up as obscene caricatures of the female sex. Have a look in the mirror. And ask yourself some hard questions before you ever dare lecture me with your white privilege and your ingrained internalised misogyny. You know something? Men laugh at you for defending their mockery of us. You won't win their favour. They laugh at you. I'm proud to defend not only my race but my sex. And what about you? Think hard.

I know it's their choice, I just think it'd be refreshing to see a gay man dancing with a woman like their sexual orientation is unremarkable, as it should be. Like Susan and Kevin, as you say.
I just keep thinking of Johannes and John Whaite(?), in the final when they went all out on rainbow lights and Pride colours and glitter and it was all a bit much.

Yes, I'm on the main Strictly thread too, so see you there!

@HelenaWaiting also your whole "oh because some women kind of took part in oppressing black people doesn't mean they were equal to the men" is very revealing of your point of view. Clue - feminism isn't getting an equal 50% of oppressive power off of the men, it's about dismantling oppression.

Oh look, more delusional gaslighting. I'm a card-carrying Labour member and left wing feminist.

Hateful misogyny the likes of which you spew is far right wing. FEMINISM, is LEFT WING. Now go back to idolising Andrew Tate.

God all this far right wing bullshit pretending to be feminism blows my mind.

I think you all need to actually look at the history of drag and listen to drag artists talking about it. You all pretend to be clever but you really aren’t you are so close minded and doing so much damage to our world.

I agree.

Given it's been the running joke that it's the BBC there's a Drag Queen story, it really is a surprise they haven't done this before.

I think Paul O’Grady would have been on the show, not Lily Savage. He was very clear that Savage was a character and a performance.
He was also very clear that he didn’t like the direction drag has taken in recent years; his version of it was a salute to the women in his past, whereas much of the character of it now is misogynistic and crudely sexualised.
As I’ve said already, I’ll be interested to see if it will be La Voix who is on Strictly, or her creator as himself.

God all this far right wing bullshit pretending to be feminism blows my mind.