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Drag Queen on Strictly

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HelenaWaiting · 13/08/2025 17:38

I didn't see a thread on this, and it seems to have been slipped out quietly. I'm assuming this man in woman-face will be taking the place of a female?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/2025/strictly-come-dancing-la-voix#:~:text=A%20powerhouse%20of%20charisma%2C%20comedy,no%20stranger%20to%20national%20television.

La Voix is the seventh celebrity contestant announced for Strictly Come Dancing 2025

The legendary singer, entertainer and Drag Race UK finalist will enter the famous ballroom when Strictly returns to BBC One and BBC iPlayer this September

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/2025/strictly-come-dancing-la-voix#:~:text=A%20powerhouse%20of%20charisma%2C%20comedy,no%20stranger%20to%20national%20television.

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oncemoreuntothebeachdearfriends · 13/08/2025 19:24

"woman face" !!!

FFS, anyone know a woman that looks like that ?

Cece92 · 13/08/2025 19:24

Wow this thread took a bit of a turn lol! Who cares it’s a dance competition and it’s about who can dance the best. He is a drag queen and I’m almost certain he won’t be dressing up every day. A lot of drag queens on reality shows go as themselves. Plus if you wstch him he’s pretty good and funny. Can only imagine the outrage if there was a transgender on there

ThatBlackCat · 13/08/2025 19:23

Haggisfish3 · 13/08/2025 18:51

La voix is an ace drag queen. Quite old school. Not overly sexualised and will be thrilled to be on strictly, I imagine.

Drag is still drag. 'old' drag is still as deeply insulting.

ThatBlackCat · 13/08/2025 19:22

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ThatBlackCat · 13/08/2025 19:20

foxyariel · 13/08/2025 18:42

Ooh- fabulous! Gotta love a drag queen! 👸As a previous poster stated, Strictly is already as camp as Christmas, so why not??

Gotta love womanface, @foxyariel ? So I suppose you will have no problem with a male actor all blacked up with boot polish then?

Newgirls · 13/08/2025 19:19

La voix is a classic panto dame and seems very pleasant on social media. Seems a good match for strictly to be honest. It’s all sequins and make up anyway. I’ll be cheering on Alex Kingston - big fan of her work.

Raquelos · 13/08/2025 19:17

FridayFeelingmidweek · 13/08/2025 19:02

I guess the problem is that the notion/concept of drag queen is insulting to women though - the focus on make up, oversized boob etc. That's why drag exacerbates the negative way women are already seen in the world as the concept of drag characatures women.

However, I personally love drag acts themselves as there's clearly a freedom for the person, and I'm yet to meet an unkind person in drag.

Good God, are you joking! Speaking as someone who has spent a fair amount of time in close proximity to it, there are corners of the drag scene that are as nasty as it gets.

SirChenjins · 13/08/2025 19:16

Is he going to appear in drag? If so, he can fuck off to the same bin as the Black and White Minstrel Show.

ThatBlackCat · 13/08/2025 19:15

Doseofreality · 13/08/2025 18:05

They are a person, Drag is their profession.

Re-write this about blackface - "They are a person, blackface is their profession." about Al Jolson. Still ok?

TheNightingalesStarling · 13/08/2025 19:15

ThatBlackCat · 13/08/2025 19:13

Drag is offensive to women! Would you be ok with a blackface face actor?

Its not remotely the same and it is racist to suggest it is.

ThatBlackCat · 13/08/2025 19:13

TheNightingalesStarling · 13/08/2025 18:02

As long as they aren't offensive to women,does it really matter? Its not a mens vs women competition. Sometimes they have 2 men or 2 women pairings.

So far 9 contestants have been announced, 4 make plus La Voix and 4 women.

Drag is offensive to women! Would you be ok with a blackface face actor?

ScrollingLeaves · 13/08/2025 19:12

HelenaWaiting · 13/08/2025 17:38

I didn't see a thread on this, and it seems to have been slipped out quietly. I'm assuming this man in woman-face will be taking the place of a female?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/2025/strictly-come-dancing-la-voix#:~:text=A%20powerhouse%20of%20charisma%2C%20comedy,no%20stranger%20to%20national%20television.

With four RuPeter Badges under her belt and a place in the Grand Finale, she was awarded runner-up and quickly became a fan favourite

Why do they call her she? I thought the whole point of drag queens, the raison d’etre and the frisson, was that they are really men

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 13/08/2025 19:11

TheNightingalesStarling · 13/08/2025 18:02

As long as they aren't offensive to women,does it really matter? Its not a mens vs women competition. Sometimes they have 2 men or 2 women pairings.

So far 9 contestants have been announced, 4 make plus La Voix and 4 women.

But they are offensive to women.
I am deeply offended by this.

ThatBlackCat · 13/08/2025 19:10

ipredictariot5 · 13/08/2025 17:49

I’m outta here made the mistake of thinking is was a Strictly thread - enjoy !

Yes, run away when your disgusting homophobia is called out @ipredictariot5 .

ThatBlackCat · 13/08/2025 19:09

ipredictariot5 · 13/08/2025 17:44

Hmm so did you object to Nicola Adams who is a lesbian dancing the man’s steps when she was on a few years ago?
it’s a dance competition

Wow. It never takes long for the homophobia to rear it's head when males impersonating females is the topic.

You have to be really messed up in the head to automatically go there, and deeply homophobic/lesbophobic. But those who defend womanface are usually homophobic. It goes with the territory.

ScaryM0nster · 13/08/2025 19:08

123ZYX · 13/08/2025 18:04

It’s not the steps they are doing, it’s the number of female celebrities compared to male. There have been two male only couples and two female only couples over the last few series.

Normally, the number of male and female contestants is equal, at most only a difference of 1 where there is an odd number. Last year, though, there were 6 female celebrities and 9 male. If this year a drag queen is counted as female, the number of female contestants could be even lower.

Strictly tends to help celebrities with their career. Women already struggle to maintain a career in the media as they get older - removing an opportunity to be on strictly, which could help them maintain their career, because a male celebrity has taken a female space is another disadvantage to them

You know strictly struggle to get competitors, rather than people being desperate to get on it right?

FridayFeelingmidweek · 13/08/2025 19:02

TheNightingalesStarling · 13/08/2025 18:02

As long as they aren't offensive to women,does it really matter? Its not a mens vs women competition. Sometimes they have 2 men or 2 women pairings.

So far 9 contestants have been announced, 4 make plus La Voix and 4 women.

I guess the problem is that the notion/concept of drag queen is insulting to women though - the focus on make up, oversized boob etc. That's why drag exacerbates the negative way women are already seen in the world as the concept of drag characatures women.

However, I personally love drag acts themselves as there's clearly a freedom for the person, and I'm yet to meet an unkind person in drag.

Doseofreality · 13/08/2025 18:57

Here’s me hoping their couple’s choice is a camp Queen bop to Lily Allen’s “Fuck you”, dedicated to those Mumsnetters.,

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 13/08/2025 18:53

Skybluepinky · 13/08/2025 18:49

This is really a non story, are you really that sad!

Yet here you are commenting on it 😂 not sad at all.

MirrorMirror1247 · 13/08/2025 18:52

I can't imagine he'd get all dressed up in drag for rehearsals every day. The shows themselves, perhaps, and maybe not even every week, if he wants the public to get to know the real him. But I can't get too worked up about it. I've got tickets to see La Voix in panto at Christmas and if she goes quite far in Strictly, I'm just wondering how that'll work out!

Just to add, I've read that La Voix uses female pronouns when in drag and male ones when not in drag, so I've used both in my above paragraph. No doubt someone will spot that, so I'm just pre-empting.

helpfulperson · 13/08/2025 18:51

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 13/08/2025 18:48

You’re comparing a black lesbian to a drag queen?! JFC just listen to yourself, that comment is a disgrace.

No she is making the point that ballroom couples dont need to be one man and one woman. Any combination is allowed.

Haggisfish3 · 13/08/2025 18:51

La voix is an ace drag queen. Quite old school. Not overly sexualised and will be thrilled to be on strictly, I imagine.

Skybluepinky · 13/08/2025 18:49

This is really a non story, are you really that sad!

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 13/08/2025 18:48

ipredictariot5 · 13/08/2025 17:44

Hmm so did you object to Nicola Adams who is a lesbian dancing the man’s steps when she was on a few years ago?
it’s a dance competition

You’re comparing a black lesbian to a drag queen?! JFC just listen to yourself, that comment is a disgrace.

InBetweenTheLines · 13/08/2025 18:48

DAs are shoe'd in everywhere

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