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Helleofabore · 13/08/2025 12:38

DeanElderberry · 13/08/2025 12:17

Nah, we've all been inundated by a story about this woman . . .

This is true. Both of these women mentioned have had their stories published more than once. It feels like ground hog day.

And women were regularly being asked if they were in the right space. I have been numerous times in my younger years. Always just replied that yes, I was in the right toilet and my voice generally assured those other women.

So, why are women who have been asked a fairly standard question for decades and decades being weaponised as emotionally manipulative leverage to allow male people to access female only single sex spaces?

Pombear123 · 13/08/2025 12:33

If you read past the headline there are some good points made. I agree some people do need to change their mindset about what they expect a woman to look like:

But some suggest these concerns are being overplayed. Jenny Willmott, co-founder of Scottish Lesbians, another gender critical group that intervened in support of the For Women Scotland case, says she has been challenged in women’s toilets since she was a teenager.
Willmott explains: “I’m the best part of 6ft4in, short hair, don’t wear makeup or skirts. Barely a week goes by that I don’t get a double-take. Women glance in, see a 6ft body with short hair and think: ‘Aah!’. But after the second glance they think ‘Oh OK, it’s a woman.’” For Willmott, “it’s just something that happens. It used to bother me because we do need to broaden the bandwidth of what a biological woman looks like”.

DeanElderberry · 13/08/2025 12:17

Gettingbysomehow · 13/08/2025 11:49

Im sick to death of this. Since the ruling we've all been inundated with stories about butch looking women being turfed (see what I did there) out of women's toilets. Where did all these women that look like men suddenly come from?
I've never mistaken a woman for a man my whole life and Im in my 60s.

Nah, we've all been inundated by a story about this woman . . .

Justnot · 13/08/2025 12:16

It’s a few different incidents - the Caz one got verbally abused, then later in the article Nikki Lucas gives a list of things that have happened to her including being spat on

I only sped read it cos why waste my fucking time

MrsOvertonsWindow · 13/08/2025 12:10

Utter nonsense being repeatedly peddled by those determined to wedge men into women's spaces. Neither tale is a reason for women to be compelled to undress in front / alongside of random men in changing rooms, showers, hospital wards, dormitories or toilets.

Westfacing · 13/08/2025 12:05

AstonsGerbil · 13/08/2025 12:01

She was spat on by a man and it was him abusing her. Which is ridiculous. So by that logic I don't know why she then wants other men to access single sex spaces.

Keep all men out of women's toilets regardless of gender feelings. The man that abused her was a bog standard misogynistic idiot. This does not mean we should open up toilets to all men, including any transwomen. Because guess what?! They are also men. So, yep, her argument makes no sense.

Also there have been two or three threads on this already. It's not a gotcha.

Where does it say it was a man who spat?

AstonsGerbil · 13/08/2025 12:01

She was spat on by a man and it was him abusing her. Which is ridiculous. So by that logic I don't know why she then wants other men to access single sex spaces.

Keep all men out of women's toilets regardless of gender feelings. The man that abused her was a bog standard misogynistic idiot. This does not mean we should open up toilets to all men, including any transwomen. Because guess what?! They are also men. So, yep, her argument makes no sense.

Also there have been two or three threads on this already. It's not a gotcha.

Gettingbysomehow · 13/08/2025 12:01

MissJoGrant · 13/08/2025 11:58

How can you know?

I just do. Unlike so many people now I know what a woman is.

Westfacing · 13/08/2025 11:58

In all my 70 years can't ever remember seeing a woman spit at anyone - certainly not in public toilets; it's just not something we do!

MissJoGrant · 13/08/2025 11:58

Gettingbysomehow · 13/08/2025 11:49

Im sick to death of this. Since the ruling we've all been inundated with stories about butch looking women being turfed (see what I did there) out of women's toilets. Where did all these women that look like men suddenly come from?
I've never mistaken a woman for a man my whole life and Im in my 60s.

How can you know?

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MrTiddlesTheCat · 13/08/2025 11:53

I saw that article and was very confused by it. The woman is very obviously a woman, even to someone with prosopagnosia (face blindness) like me.

CrossPurposes · 13/08/2025 11:52

Third thread now. Other two are still very visible.

Gettingbysomehow · 13/08/2025 11:49

Im sick to death of this. Since the ruling we've all been inundated with stories about butch looking women being turfed (see what I did there) out of women's toilets. Where did all these women that look like men suddenly come from?
I've never mistaken a woman for a man my whole life and Im in my 60s.

GailBlancheViola · 13/08/2025 11:46

There is already a thread on this.

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