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National Library of Scotland censors The Women Who Wouldn't Wheesht

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OhBuggerandArse · 12/08/2025 23:46

Took it out of their centenary exhibition because the staff LGBT+ network kicked up a fuss. Craven. This really needs massive public challenge and push back - if the National Library isn't able to fend off the censors we are utterly lost. https://x.com/EthelWrites/status/1955390550494023958

https://x.com/EthelWrites/status/1955390550494023958

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AnSolas · 18/08/2025 09:24

And if (when) this project gets done can I suggest having it sent to them to add to the film / digital collections?

OhBuggerandArse · 18/08/2025 08:38

sashh · 18/08/2025 02:51

I agree but I am also thinking of the opening ceremony of the London Olympics, they had choirs in NI, Scotland and Wales, they showed them and then went back to the stadium.

It might be nice to reserve a copy from a local library and filming yourself reading the library copy(ies).

This is all great. I still also really want the Led By Donkeys style projection on the outside of the building. I think photos would be really powerful.

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AmaryllisNightAndDay · 18/08/2025 08:25

@OhBuggerandArse Yes a read-in sounds great! I would like to do something that is local physical presence and small. It's a physical exhibition of physical books for people to come and visit. Could sit in the cafe or in the exhibition itself, maybe multiple sessions over a timeperiod? I do enjoy reading aloud.

The exhibition goes on all year as well as banned book week, so we don't have to do the whole book at once, readers could do it in bits and maybe tell each other where we've got to. The sky wont fall if we miss some out or repeat a bit or don't finish.

I'm not so fussed about recording or streaming. Selfies with the book in the exhibition / library steps / hallway?

sashh · 18/08/2025 02:51

OhBuggerandArse · 17/08/2025 21:07

But that is why, if we could come up with some kind of demo/read-in, it would be really good to do it at or near the NLS itself. Online is perhaps too easy to ignore. In person, with a good range of diverse people, is much more effective in saying ‘oi, we are here and we matter too’.

I agree but I am also thinking of the opening ceremony of the London Olympics, they had choirs in NI, Scotland and Wales, they showed them and then went back to the stadium.

It might be nice to reserve a copy from a local library and filming yourself reading the library copy(ies).

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But that is why, if we could come up with some kind of demo/read-in, it would be really good to do it at or near the NLS itself. Online is perhaps too easy to ignore. In person, with a good range of diverse people, is much more effective in saying ‘oi, we are here and we matter too’.

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ArabellaScott · 17/08/2025 21:03

Is it actually going to be a shock to A Shah (she/her) that she's chosen to actively discriminate?

Self.justification is quite an art.

lcakethereforeIam · 17/08/2025 21:02

OhBuggerandArse · 17/08/2025 20:33

I posted a link to it on this thread!

D'oh! Well that explains it.

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lcakethereforeIam · 17/08/2025 19:46

I'm sure I read about it this morning. I must have clicked a link to an old article. Unless...it was a massive report, could they still be reading it?

I posted a link to it on this thread!

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lcakethereforeIam · 17/08/2025 19:46

I'm sure I read about it this morning. I must have clicked a link to an old article. Unless...it was a massive report, could they still be reading it?

OhBuggerandArse · 17/08/2025 19:36

lcakethereforeIam · 17/08/2025 19:31

I think there's a read-a-thon going on at the Fringe at the moment of the Chilcot Inquiry into the Iraq War. Something like the of the WWWW would be brilliant.

That was in 2016! I did a bit of it.

The advantage was that it was both on-site and the readers were broadcast on-line, though I think it was before web-casting really took off so I'm not sure how widely spread it was.

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lcakethereforeIam · 17/08/2025 19:31

I think there's a read-a-thon going on at the Fringe at the moment of the Chilcot Inquiry into the Iraq War. Something like the of the WWWW would be brilliant.

OhBuggerandArse · 17/08/2025 18:55

lanadelgrey · 17/08/2025 18:25

Ah, I just imagined a crowd or relay of women going into the library to read their own copies to themselves in prominent places round the building. Sadly, I’m a very long way from Edinburgh

That would be great.

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borntobequiet · 17/08/2025 18:40

Perhaps people could video themselves reading out passages they consider really important, explain why and then upload the videos to…somewhere? Maybe 3-5 min each?

ArabellaScott · 17/08/2025 18:40

OhBuggerandArse · 17/08/2025 18:15

I think you'd have to find a way of getting people to sign up for slots, and passages, in advance, and then live-stream rather than letting people into a room to watch.

You'd need to consider how to do it carefully without risk of disruption or doxxing. Plenty bad faith actors and trolls about unfortunately.

lanadelgrey · 17/08/2025 18:25

Ah, I just imagined a crowd or relay of women going into the library to read their own copies to themselves in prominent places round the building. Sadly, I’m a very long way from Edinburgh

OhBuggerandArse · 17/08/2025 18:15

SirChenjins · 17/08/2025 18:11

I'm not sure, sorry - my experience of shared platforms are limited to Teams or Zoom. There must be something that would work though - with someone chucking out the rainbow frothers as they inevitably appear.

I think you'd have to find a way of getting people to sign up for slots, and passages, in advance, and then live-stream rather than letting people into a room to watch.

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SirChenjins · 17/08/2025 18:11

OhBuggerandArse · 17/08/2025 17:14

What platform would work, do you think? I'm sure I've seen something similar for an international Bloomsday reading of the whole of Ulysses, but can't remember how they organised it.

I'm not sure, sorry - my experience of shared platforms are limited to Teams or Zoom. There must be something that would work though - with someone chucking out the rainbow frothers as they inevitably appear.

OhBuggerandArse · 17/08/2025 17:14

SirChenjins · 17/08/2025 16:39

Could it be online as well as in person for people who can't get to Edinburgh?

What platform would work, do you think? I'm sure I've seen something similar for an international Bloomsday reading of the whole of Ulysses, but can't remember how they organised it.

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DontWheeshtMe · 17/08/2025 17:10

I’m thinking a mumsnet class action lawsuit might give them the kick up the ars they need

DontWheeshtMe · 17/08/2025 17:08

SirChenjins · 17/08/2025 16:39

Could it be online as well as in person for people who can't get to Edinburgh?

Definately!

DontWheeshtMe · 17/08/2025 17:08

MarieDeGournay · 17/08/2025 15:24

That is such a great idea! It should attract a wide range of people, because it's not just us rights-hoarding dinosaurs who are alarmed by this censorship [TRAs may indulge in semantics, but that's what it boils down to].

edited to say: replying to the suggestion of a read-in.
further edited to say to porridgecake that I wasn't suggesting that her dog rolling in fox poo would attract a wide range of people😂

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I read it before you edited and just thought you were having a difficult day 🤣🤣

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