Men are pushing women over in the street - as a trend

I don't think pushing a woman off a bus, into a road, or off a sea wall is just because 'men don't treat us like delicate princesses'. It's violent, thuggish, misogynistic behaviour and should be punished harshly.

There's a long space between treating women like delicate flowers and shoving them into oncoming traffic. Most men who exist in the middle seem quite capable of treating women as they themselves would wish to be treated. The ones at the violent end of that line should be in prison.

It's kinda like the happy slapping craze of a few decades ago.

I'm just trying to imagine the internal dialogue that a man who has justified this to himself has had.

I mean, wtf.

I think part of this is just the fact that men don't treat us like delicate princesses nowadays. They still treat us better than they treat each other, mind.

He thought it would be funny apparently. I'm sure his victim found it hilarious. Suspended sentence, some rehab and a fine.

https://www.countypress.co.uk/news/26270121.isle-wight-man-pushed-cyclist-seawall-spared-jail/

The Bristol incident is particularly hellish given that the perpetrator actively followed the victim. I hope that there's CCTV to help identify him before he selects another victim.

I've just seen another e-bike incident in Fife. I think I might have mentioned the previous one upthread? A women in her 90s was knocked over and seriously injured in Lochore. That case has not yet gone to court.

This one is from my home town - in this case, two police officers were injured, but the teenage boy responsible kept revving his vehicle in spite of the fact that a police woman was under the wheels and yelling for him to stop.

The sentence is laughable - points on his non-existent licence and referral to the Children's Panel.

Men shouldn't be allowed out and women should be allowed to carry knives and pistols upon satisfactory completion of appropriate training in their handling.

I think that that might have had an impact...

Before anyone calls the police, I'll stress that it wasn't switched on by then, and I was only holding it in one hand... Mind you, I was getting ready to stretch out an arm to balance/save myself if necessary.

Maybe they slowed down because you were wielding a hedge cutter 😀

On narrow suburban pavements especially, the inside, by the hedge is where all the dog shit is. That's certainly why I don't like walking on the bit of the path. Or people don't cut their hedges back and you're forced into the road anyway.

The Guardian letters, linked upthread, I read them (including the 'men get assaulted too' ones) and the article that prompted them. The incidents described are appalling. I've never been pushed or jostled in that fashion but I doubt I walk in a straight line very often on a pavement. Making way for other people, men or women, is so ingrained in me I think I'd really have to really concentrate to not do it. It's typical of the Guardian not to see the parallels between women expected, however unfairly, to make way for men (and be punished if they don't) and the trans wants that it usually champions.

But when it is a more "mature" man (assuming men ever mature and cease being selfish teenagers) deliberating walking into women, refusing to stand aside, there is something much more conscious about that action.

Agree. None of this behaviour is excusable, but there is something a lot more sinister about the deliberate action of a man targeting a lone woman in the ways we've all described.

I live in a city and do a lot of walking. I've always noticed that men, especially in small groups, always seem to want to walk on the outer edge of pavements, which squeezes everybody else (women) into a smaller space between the pavement and a wall/house, whatever. So I've always made a point of deliberately walking on the outer edge of the pavement to pass them, forcing the men to the inside. I don't like the feeling of being 'squeezed' just because I'm smaller than them. It's always a surprise to them, to have to shift to the inside.

However, now that this 'pushing women over and into the road' trend has been happening, I have started walking on the inside, just in case a man decides to push me, so I don't end up in the road. I hate that I have changed my way of walking, but I suppose that's the point of it, isn't it? Make women change. Make women move over. Make women budge up. Hate it.

Just awful.

She's 94 and in a very bad way with multiple fractures - was transferred from the local hospital to Edinburgh.

A relative on social media said that the doctor who first saw her said that it would be difficult for a young person to come back from those injuries. She was completely compos mentis in spite of all that - when asked what day it was: "Pension day."

Teenage boys do dickish things, I know I did. Fortunately, I never took to motorbikes until I was 25, probably a good thing. But if they have no-one to tell them that that's not OK, it's stupid. It's the risk of serious injury to yourself or someone else, and maybe a criminal conviction to boot. While back, one nearly ran me over, riding the wrong way down a one-way street, again with no lights.

There's loads of that round my way. Just walking home from the pub tonight, a lad went flying past me,must have doing at least 40 in a 20, no lights, no helmet, no stopping at red lights...

The problem round here is teenagers in balaclavas riding off-road motorbikes on pavements and roads.

A few months back, I had to jump out of the way of a teenage boy on a motorbike while I was cutting my front hedge.

While I was cutting the side boundary hedge the other day, two boys on motorbikes came riding down the path I was walking down (having finished the cutting). They obviously expected me to stand aside. Foolishly, probably, I just slowed down and held onto my hedge cutter. They did actually slow down to the extent that I think they had to straddle their bikes.

However, we've recently had this happen in one of the nearby villages. What the article doesn't say is that the 17 yr old rider tried to get away and was only arrested because a male passerby sat on him.

https://www.centralfifetimes.com/news/26138573.youth-charged-94-year-old-hit-motorbike-lochore/

I didn't name anyone. I posted a link to an article about a man with a previous prosecution for knocking women over in the street. Apparently we're not allowed to mention that man on a thread about men knocking women over in the street.