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Men are pushing women over in the street - as a trend

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IwantToRetire · 12/08/2025 16:56

Experts fear that new types of misogyny and harassment – including spitting and pushing women over – are taking hold in the UK as they move offline

This type of targeted shoulder barging has a name: butsukari otoko. The term, which originated on the streets of Japan in 2018, describes a type of violence against women that is done in a crowded public space, most commonly train stations.

It could at first appear accidental, but it is actually intentional; it is gendered (men doing it to women), and done for misogynistic reasons.

Researchers fear it is gaining traction in the UK, spreading from online videos to real-life encounters. “It’s come out of a subculture that existed years ago in Japan,” says Megan Hughes, a researcher at the Alan Turing Institute’s Centre for Emerging Technology and Security, which tracks online extremism. “It is something that’s been around for a long time, and people are now recognising it and are speaking out, but it’s a really difficult thing to track.

“They are sometimes subtle collisions, which are designed to appear accidental. They’re making victims second-guess intent or motive, and that then makes it really difficult for people wanting to report a crime. So it’s really hard for us to monitor.”

Street harassment isn’t new, but many believe it’s getting worse. A poll by Zencity, which surveyed 1600 women, found that 69 per cent said they had first or secondhand experience of women being ill-treated within the last 12 months; 75 per cent of women surveyed said violence and harassment was a serious problem and asked whether it had got worse in the last five years – 42 per cent agreed, and 30 per cent thought it was the same.

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Men are pushing over women in the street as a trend – it happened to me

Experts fear that new types of misogyny and harassment – including spitting and pushing women over – are taking hold in the UK as they move offline

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ShowOfHands · 12/08/2025 19:28

I was walking through a city centre today. The street is pedestrianised and it was really busy. Two lads careered down the street on their push bikes, deliberately aiming at women and laughing when they were scared. A couple of people shouted at them to stop and received a mouthful of abuse. DS commented that it was women they were cycling at and cackling. I might not have noticed otherwise.

DiggingHoles · 12/08/2025 19:21

Men have always hated women. They will never be truly our friends or loved ones. Even the ones who don't do shit like this benefit from the general wariness it creates in us women, since we can't know before hand who will be dangerous to us or not.

Encrochat · 12/08/2025 19:15

Encrochat · 12/08/2025 19:05

This is Strange, I was pushed over on an escalator in London last week

sorry. should have added more detail - in a railway station,
BTP were incredible, i would exhort anyone to contact them

BetweenTwoFerns · 12/08/2025 19:13

Yes, I do agree that it’s a part of the incel culture. I just feel like people are behaving however they like and getting away with it. Maybe less men would be pushing women if they even suspected for a moment that they would be punished. That their picture would be in the paper and their workmates and their gran would see it.

IwantToRetire · 12/08/2025 19:09

It’s the justice system.

I dont think the men feeling entitled to bump into and even knock down women has anything to do with the justice system. This is about the incel culture, which isn't just "incels" young men on the internet, but more and more men feeling they can be hostile towards women.

Anti social behaviour is usually, although not always, a combination of family, local area and complete absence of police.

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BetweenTwoFerns · 12/08/2025 19:05

The world has gone mad. It’s the justice system. People are doing things and there’s no consequences. My friend has a broken arm because she was knocked over by an e-scooter on the pavement. The bloke was wearing a mask and he didn’t stop. Police could not care less.

I phoned 101 (or whatever it is) to report three motorbikes tearing around on my DD’s school field. The operator asked me ‘how it was affecting me’. It took over an hour for a policeman to arrive, obviously they never caught them and 120 children could not use the field for playtime or PE for the whole summer term.

Encrochat · 12/08/2025 19:05

This is Strange, I was pushed over on an escalator in London last week

WannabeEDIOfficer · 12/08/2025 19:04

AllTheChaos · 12/08/2025 18:17

I’ve had this, mostly from young men who seem very angry at a middle aged woman daring to take up space. I am slow as partially disabled, and walk with a stick, and I have even had the stick kicked out from under me before being knocked over and sworn at. It was terrifying, and gave me a feeling of vulnerability that simply being disabled hadn’t. There are now some parts of London that I simply won’t go to as it has happened more than once, and I daren’t risk it. It makes me so angry.

My mum is slow and walks with a stick. Recently, there have been bus drivers who have started moving before she his seated and a general lack of curtesy, it has been upsetting to witness.

There has also been two lovely young men who helped her with a suitcase after a long distance train journey. But, I am afraid this is more of the exception.

IwantToRetire · 12/08/2025 18:58

Sundaybananas · 12/08/2025 18:54

Oh don’t be so bloody ridiculous!

Well clearly you dont live in an inner city area that has been colonised by the righteous green, rainbow, invaders that are ruining the area.

As you haven't experienced you cant tell me I haven't.

You are the one who is being ridiculous in thinking your knowledge of the world and your experiences are the only real ones.

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Itisallgoingtobeok · 12/08/2025 18:56

I work in a male dominated environment and I was thinking the other day that we all used to rub along quite well, but over the last year or so I have felt things shift ever so slightly with aggression in meetings ramping up. It’s never overt, but there is a lot of subtle “putting women in their place” type stuff happening. Mulling over what to do about it…

Pushing women over is on another level though. It’s terrifying and things only tend to get worse.

Sundaybananas · 12/08/2025 18:54

IwantToRetire · 12/08/2025 18:44

Absolutely. And not unlike TRAs feel they have this very special halo of rightness as they are so green they can do whatever they want.

On the pavement.

On a pedestrian crossing.

Oh don’t be so bloody ridiculous!

SwanFlight · 12/08/2025 18:54

This is certainly an oldie. Seen it plenty of times on a night out, even trying the domino effect on queues. Very difficult for some of us that struggle to stand and get up at the best of times.

PrincessC0nsuelaBananaHammock · 12/08/2025 18:50

It should become legal for women to carry tazors!

Purplecatshopaholic · 12/08/2025 18:46

What fresh hell is this now? Fuckin nutjobs!

IwantToRetire · 12/08/2025 18:44

PandoraRing · 12/08/2025 18:26

I'm getting the same vibes from the super hard core lycra bike men.

Absolutely. And not unlike TRAs feel they have this very special halo of rightness as they are so green they can do whatever they want.

On the pavement.

On a pedestrian crossing.

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porridgecake · 12/08/2025 18:43

My husband and my son have very good manners, as does my DD's partner. I know lots of young men who are absolutely lovely. None of them spend their lives on social media. The online content that many people watch is poisonous. The hatred of women is very frightening.

Janie143 · 12/08/2025 18:37

My coercive controlling XH did this to me in the hall, doorways etc as a way to commit low level violence and then gaslight me saying I imagined it. He is a misogynistic arsehole in more ways than one.

PandoraRing · 12/08/2025 18:26

I'm getting the same vibes from the super hard core lycra bike men.

PandoraRing · 12/08/2025 18:24

It happened to me twice, once in Soho in the 90s, a man twice my size just shouldered me and once at the royal festival hall, a man hit me hard on the shoulder as he didn't like me whispering something quietly to my mum before concert had started. This was in the 2000s.

AllTheChaos · 12/08/2025 18:17

I’ve had this, mostly from young men who seem very angry at a middle aged woman daring to take up space. I am slow as partially disabled, and walk with a stick, and I have even had the stick kicked out from under me before being knocked over and sworn at. It was terrifying, and gave me a feeling of vulnerability that simply being disabled hadn’t. There are now some parts of London that I simply won’t go to as it has happened more than once, and I daren’t risk it. It makes me so angry.

Columbidae · 12/08/2025 18:12

porridgecake · 12/08/2025 17:06

The jogger who tried to push a woman under a bus on Putney Bridge was never found. It is only a matter of time before a woman is killed by this.

That one makes me so angry. It's easy to forget that lady would probably have died that day if it wasn't for the bus drivers incredibly quick reactions. And the man that did it was so casual in his attempted murder.

JenniferBooth · 12/08/2025 17:46

porridgecake · 12/08/2025 17:06

The jogger who tried to push a woman under a bus on Putney Bridge was never found. It is only a matter of time before a woman is killed by this.

i was just coming on to say this. Someone knows who this fucker is

damemaggiescurledupperlip · 12/08/2025 17:44

We all need GoPros How depressing

LikeStrawberriesAndCream · 12/08/2025 17:44

When I was 20, a man shoulder-barged me in the street. Very obviously deliberate. It knocked me for six, and when I turned round in shock, he was just looking at me - and I'll never forget his face. It was just hatred.
I've never forgotten this incident (happened in the early 90s - so no mobile phones around & he was an oldish man) - but v disturbing to hear it is becoming a trend.

TheSaltedCaramelPath · 12/08/2025 17:42

Coincidental timing, as I think this is what happened to me today.
I’ve been puzzling about it all afternoon…
Walked into sauna at gym, closed the door, walk through narrow gap between benches to find a seat - except man in far corner gets up suddenly strides towards me and barges me at the door, bodily contact.
Totally puzzling, been using this one for 18 years with no issue.
(Group of 3 men, probably visitors)

(My rehearsed response if there is a next time will be to square my shoulders and say “give me some space” - unless I can think of better…

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