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Transgender met police officer accused of rape

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hholiday · 11/08/2025 20:37

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/08/11/transgender-met-police-officer-accused-of-rape/

couldn’t see this elsewhere so apologies if it’s already been posted. Awful case. The decision to refer to the defendant as male feels interesting though - a step in from what we’ve seen

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PrettyDamnCosmic · 13/08/2025 10:15

StrikeandRobinlol · 13/08/2025 09:20

Maybe start one? I’m tempted to get a Reddit account at this point

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Do that & you will be permanently banned. Ask me how I know.😀

teawamutu · 13/08/2025 09:22

TheUnusuallyQuerulentMxLauraBrown · 12/08/2025 14:50

They do occasionally mention a trans criminal over there albeit mostly to minimise their crimes or complain about newspaper bias - recently they have been bemoaning the reporting on the male who says he’s a woman who killed his detransitioner male spouse with a samurai sword.

I find it really odd, when I read about say, a female teacher who has sexually offended against a teenage pupil my instinct is to say ‘Another one? We really need to improve safeguarding in order to prevent offenders from gaining access to potential victims because the current system clearly isn’t working well, perhaps there is a blind spot re: female teachers in secondary schools that specifically needs to be looked at?’

I don’t think ‘Newspapers should stop reporting on these convictions because it makes all women look bad’

Not to take away from your excellent point about closing loopholes rather than defending your chosen demographic: when I hear about a female sex offender I usually assume they're actually male.

Most of the time that is, in fact, the case.

StrikeandRobinlol · 13/08/2025 09:20

Fluffygreyjumper · 12/08/2025 07:53

Nothing about him on reddit - you can guarantee there would be pages of threads if this had been a story about trans hate. They always stay silent when a TIM is implicated in a crime. And will no doubt say he's not a "real" TW.

Like others I really want to know when he became "she". If it was after conviction, the TRA's will latch onto that.

Maybe start one? I’m tempted to get a Reddit account at this point

AnneElliott · 12/08/2025 20:10

BiologicalRobot · 11/08/2025 21:31

I wonder when they suddenly had the womanly feelz. Before or after getting caught 🤔

Yes this was my first thought as well.

TheUnusuallyQuerulentMxLauraBrown · 12/08/2025 14:50

Fluffygreyjumper · 12/08/2025 07:53

Nothing about him on reddit - you can guarantee there would be pages of threads if this had been a story about trans hate. They always stay silent when a TIM is implicated in a crime. And will no doubt say he's not a "real" TW.

Like others I really want to know when he became "she". If it was after conviction, the TRA's will latch onto that.

They do occasionally mention a trans criminal over there albeit mostly to minimise their crimes or complain about newspaper bias - recently they have been bemoaning the reporting on the male who says he’s a woman who killed his detransitioner male spouse with a samurai sword.

I find it really odd, when I read about say, a female teacher who has sexually offended against a teenage pupil my instinct is to say ‘Another one? We really need to improve safeguarding in order to prevent offenders from gaining access to potential victims because the current system clearly isn’t working well, perhaps there is a blind spot re: female teachers in secondary schools that specifically needs to be looked at?’

I don’t think ‘Newspapers should stop reporting on these convictions because it makes all women look bad’

NHSFifeSadTimes · 12/08/2025 14:44

shows how child protection and safe guarding is being flush away just so menz feelingz don’t get hurt.

where was the DBS check?

And it is the Met Police again!

TheUnusuallyQuerulentMxLauraBrown · 12/08/2025 14:40

Male
Trans identified
Police Office
(alleged)
Online Groomer
Rapist
Paedo

That’s a hell of list of intersecting characteristics - must’ve been incredibly difficult for the victims he targeted to come forward and provide evidence against that dynamic.

(as an aside it’s interesting how many of these trans predators go for a total name change, isn’t it? Most (non trans) people who change a name only change a bit of their original name… I would imagine nonpredatory trans people behave more like the non predatory majority when it comes to name changes? Maybe total name change is something that should be especially flagged for DBS purposes…)

ErrolTheDragon · 12/08/2025 14:22

Shortshriftandlethal · 12/08/2025 13:23

But the judge said that he would refer to him as 'Ms' throughout... in order "to respect his dignity". What nonsense!

Im not sure most people find a bloke accused of raping a child being called ‘Ms’ in any way ‘dignified’. I hope the judge’s statement at the start was to preclude the defendant/his lawyers whine about witnesses ‘misgendering’ and ‘deadnaming’ him.

TerrierTerrors · 12/08/2025 13:45

Chersfrozenface · 12/08/2025 13:41

You might very well think that.

I wonder whether anyone from the "trans community" or any of its allies would ever be honest enough to give that answer.

I won't hold my breath.

They can't because then the whole house of cards would come tumbling down.

Chersfrozenface · 12/08/2025 13:41

TerrierTerrors · 12/08/2025 13:38

It's simple: Anyone who says they are trans is trans, unless they have done something that would show the trans community in a negative light, then they're just liars.

You might very well think that.

I wonder whether anyone from the "trans community" or any of its allies would ever be honest enough to give that answer.

I won't hold my breath.

TerrierTerrors · 12/08/2025 13:38

Chersfrozenface · 12/08/2025 13:34

We keep asking that.

I've yet to see an answer.

It's simple: Anyone who says they are trans is trans, unless they have done something that would show the trans community in a negative light, then they're just liars.

Chersfrozenface · 12/08/2025 13:34

Shortshriftandlethal · 12/08/2025 13:25

How can you tell when somone is "genuinely trans"?

We keep asking that.

I've yet to see an answer.

Shortshriftandlethal · 12/08/2025 13:25

Screamingabdabz · 12/08/2025 08:53

Let’s face it. He’s not trans in any way shape or form is he? Why don’t they get psychological expertise in here before declaring him trans rather than allowing that to muddy the water of justice. He’s just a pathetic criminal rapist who is using every loop hole to get mitigation.

How can you tell when somone is "genuinely trans"?

Shortshriftandlethal · 12/08/2025 13:23

SinnerBoy · 11/08/2025 21:12

ScrollingLeaves · Today 20:53

Archive link here: archive.is/J765d

Mr Milne told the court the defendant and the alleged victims would be referred to by their biological sex throughout the trial when discussing the allegations.

Interesting, the Mail have chosen to describe him as "they."

But the judge said that he would refer to him as 'Ms' throughout... in order "to respect his dignity". What nonsense!

TheStateofRoads · 12/08/2025 13:13

PrettyDamnCosmic · 12/08/2025 07:27

I had to Google what a "Metropolitan Police volunteer officer" might be. It turns out it's what we used to call a special constable or hobby bobby.

The PCSOs are called hobby Bobbys locally.

Igmum · 12/08/2025 12:26

I am also relieved that, at last, the court is using the correct pronouns for this evil man. We have come a long way since the time a judge refused a rape victim compensation because she had ‘misgendered’ her rapist at trial.

Beowulfa · 12/08/2025 10:18

It's quite the list of accusations against him.

Let's not put the trial at risk with too much speculation until the verdict is out.

Pluvia · 12/08/2025 10:15

Good question.

ErrolTheDragon · 12/08/2025 10:11

WorriedMutha · 12/08/2025 09:20

They met on Omegle which I had to Google and learnt that it had closed down amid law suits and safeguarding concerns. I wondered about the testimony referring to shared trauma and thought he had either homed in on a gender questioning child or it was some kind of shared Christian insecurity. Vile whatever and I'm glad it will be getting prominent coverage.

I’d never heard of it, sounds like it was an app made for predators. I’d guess he went through the random connections until he hit on ones with a vulnerability and then exploited it - in this case the ‘gender questioning’ but perhaps also her Christian background.

Chersfrozenface · 12/08/2025 09:53

Screamingabdabz · 12/08/2025 08:53

Let’s face it. He’s not trans in any way shape or form is he? Why don’t they get psychological expertise in here before declaring him trans rather than allowing that to muddy the water of justice. He’s just a pathetic criminal rapist who is using every loop hole to get mitigation.

So who is trans, then?

What are the criteria?

RedToothBrush · 12/08/2025 09:53

Remember there were TRAs posting that 14 year olds were old enough to know better and should not be infantilised just days ago over the M&S debarcle. They got upset when it was pointed out how creepy this is and how Post Rotherham just wasn't remotely acceptable.

Just saying.

lcakethereforeIam · 12/08/2025 09:46

Seems so to me, but that's just my reckon. I suppose it stands to reason that predators who, it's been recognised, gravitate to positions of power that also give them access to victims. They seem also have been insulated from consequences because 'sacred caste'. Add trans-identity to the mix; doubly insulated!, the most sacred of sacred castes. There's also the stats about transwomen prisoners seeming to show they're more likely to be sexual offenders. This guy has got the lot.

Pluvia · 12/08/2025 09:26

Came here to post this. Massive relief to see a rapist being accurately identified as male and referred to using male pronouns. Another little step back into reality.

I think I'm aware of three other transgender police officers/ former police officers who have now been in court for sexual offences. Given the tiny number of transgender POs, surely this is a massively high proportion?

WorriedMutha · 12/08/2025 09:20

They met on Omegle which I had to Google and learnt that it had closed down amid law suits and safeguarding concerns. I wondered about the testimony referring to shared trauma and thought he had either homed in on a gender questioning child or it was some kind of shared Christian insecurity. Vile whatever and I'm glad it will be getting prominent coverage.

teawamutu · 12/08/2025 09:13

The court artist was brutal.