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Sturgeon backtracks

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JamesMacGill · 10/08/2025 18:58

https://www.itv.com/watch/news/i-should-have-paused-trans-legislation-in-scotland-sturgeon-admits-in-itv-news-interview/bj5x2fh

She’s just realised women aren’t hysterical fibbers.

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CarefulN0w · 13/08/2025 18:47

I can’t wait to see how many, many times JKR’s new book will outsell NS’.

GallantKumquat · 13/08/2025 17:04

From the comments:

“I naturally gravitated to London, that great cesspool into which all the loungers and idlers of the Empire are irresistibly drained.”
Arthur Conan Doyle had Sturgeon to a ‘T’.

🤣

Davros · 12/08/2025 20:37

I saw some protests on the telly against JD Vance holidaying in the Cotswolds. Can we do something similar?

DuesToTheDirt · 12/08/2025 20:16

IwantToRetire · 12/08/2025 16:41

We really need a better set of "re-act" options.

Especially one the acknowledges FWR humour!

I completely agree. "Thanks," "Agree," and "Love" are barely any different from each other.

I'd like a "Shocked" one too.

IwantToRetire · 12/08/2025 16:41

We really need a better set of "re-act" options.

Especially one the acknowledges FWR humour!

puffyisgood · 12/08/2025 15:57

RedToothBrush · 11/08/2025 18:14

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c05eedgp804o
Rapists 'probably' forfeit right to choose gender - Sturgeon

'Probably'

Not definitely though.

I'm long past caring about what NS says but that's quite telling, TBF, it's a tacit admission that, in her view, for an individual to have others play along with his 'TWAW' fiction is a privilege that must be earned on an individual basis, or at least a privilege which can be revoked under extreme circumstances... it's not something that's just true no matter what.

Merrymouse · 12/08/2025 15:13

She makes Liz Truss look positively competent.

Would the SNP have retained power if they had won the referendum in 2015?

Countdown2023 · 12/08/2025 15:00

She has done immense damage to the rights of women with her non-debate trans debate and actions. Not many friends left in Scotland which is why she wants to move to London!

We don’t need her in England so I am waiting for the keep-her-out petition to be created.

She will be on reality shows next year. She will mention JKR every couple of months to get some headlines.

RedToothBrush · 12/08/2025 14:52

Countdown2023 · 12/08/2025 14:49

Absolutely! A bit like M&S who like to piss off their core customers on a regular basis.

Which group have the biggest spending power? It’s not the trans community.

Well she's pissed a lot of them off now too.

Countdown2023 · 12/08/2025 14:49

Secretsquirels · 12/08/2025 14:45

She’s just realised that significantly more women buy books than trans people…

Absolutely! A bit like M&S who like to piss off their core customers on a regular basis.

Which group have the biggest spending power? It’s not the trans community.

Secretsquirels · 12/08/2025 14:45

JamesMacGill · 10/08/2025 18:58

She’s just realised that significantly more women buy books than trans people…

NotMyRealAccount · 11/08/2025 20:55

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 10/08/2025 19:19

Thanks for the link, I'm not watching it because I canna stand the women, but did she play the victim card?

Massively. I watched it, and I'm torn between feeling I should never dismiss the suffering of a woman as a pack of lies and, well, thinking, "I don't believe a word of that, or trust a single tear."

DuesToTheDirt · 11/08/2025 20:44

Countdown2023 · 10/08/2025 22:38

She doesn’t get to play the victim card. No amount of apologising will save the SNP on this front. She threw women under the bus and was absolutely vile in the way she did it.

All the while claiming to be a feminist.

I'm still so angry about this.

lechiffre55 · 11/08/2025 17:49

Theswiveleyeballsinthesky · 10/08/2025 19:21

I fervently believe that the rights of women and the interests of trans people are not irreconcilable at all.

she only wishes she paused so she could rethink strategy not because she believed the bill itself and its aims was flawed

Didn't she say something along the lines of "it's not up for debate"
The only reason she's at all reconsidering is because it bit her so hard on the ass you can see the scars on her face.
"Yeah I'd still be in charge if it wasn't for those pesky kids!"

zanahoria · 11/08/2025 11:57

"I should have taken a step back and said 'how do we achieve this?'.

ITV News at Ten presenter Julie Etchingham asks the former first minister: "So you're basically admitting that you should have just paused that legislation?"

She is not saying the legislation was a mistake.

All she is doing is saying that it was rolled out badly.

It suggests she is still of the opinion that the critics are frightful bigots but she did a poor job of persuading them

Floisme · 11/08/2025 10:53

If she agrees to go on a podcast with For Women Scotland then I'll watch. Otherwise no deal.

PaterPower · 11/08/2025 10:39

Rates of homelessness, alcoholism, the state of the Scottish NHS and so many other things got worse under Sturgeon.

She has so much more to answer for than whether she should have ‘paused’ her drive to impose Self ID in Scotland. Does she address any of that in her book?

CarefulN0w · 11/08/2025 10:29

Wow. So JKR was right.

Guess whose new book I will be buying?

Hoardasurass · 11/08/2025 09:49

Chrysanthemum5 · 11/08/2025 09:46

In that news interview she goes on to say that is a man rapes a woman he shouldn't be allowed his gender identity of choice.

Oh Nic ya wee bampot, it's nae a choice is it hen?

I expect the TRAs will be unhappy

And yet she blocked the amendment that would have prevented convicted sec offenders from getting a GRC

Chrysanthemum5 · 11/08/2025 09:46

In that news interview she goes on to say that is a man rapes a woman he shouldn't be allowed his gender identity of choice.

Oh Nic ya wee bampot, it's nae a choice is it hen?

I expect the TRAs will be unhappy

zanahoria · 11/08/2025 09:20

Hoardasurass · 11/08/2025 09:13

I'm wondering why anyone would need to buy it when she's already released the only mildly interesting parts to the press, its not as if she did anything praiseworthy or even good for Scotland except destroy the dream of independence and that was an accident due to her ineptitude

This is true of virtually every politicians book, some would not even be written without a newspaper deal

Hoardasurass · 11/08/2025 09:13

SidewaysOtter · 10/08/2025 23:40

Whatever. We’re still not buying your fucking book.

I'm wondering why anyone would need to buy it when she's already released the only mildly interesting parts to the press, its not as if she did anything praiseworthy or even good for Scotland except destroy the dream of independence and that was an accident due to her ineptitude