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Serious sexual and violent offenders should be legally confined to specific areas after release from prison

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IwantToRetire · 10/08/2025 18:25

The government is planning new legislation to confine serious sexual and violent criminals to specific zones after they leave prison. The approach suggests flipping the current system that tells them where they can’t go, and instead tightly controlling where they can. Ministers say this would protect victims and give them more peace of mind. But critics worry it could stretch probation services and raise human rights concerns.

https://www.yougov.chat/

Not all groups supporting women who have experienced male violence agree with this:

https://www.womensaid.org.uk/womens-aid-responds-to-the-mojs-announcement-about-new-restriction-zones/

https://refuge.org.uk/news/refuge-welcomes-mojs-new-restriction-zones-to-protect-domestic-abuse-survivors/

Refuge welcomes MOJ’s new ‘restriction zones’ to protect domestic abuse survivors

Refuge welcomes MOJ’s new ‘restriction zones’ to protect domestic abuse survivors - Refuge

https://refuge.org.uk/news/refuge-welcomes-mojs-new-restriction-zones-to-protect-domestic-abuse-survivors/

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LadyQuackBeth · 11/08/2025 09:22

I think this is so the victim has more freedom than the offender. It currently stands that he can't go to a limited number of places (her town, for example) but can go anywhere else. She will worry if she leaves her town.

The restrictions are playing catch up with technology, he can online stalk, find where she holidays, who she visits outside the town etc. then comes the process of adding restrictions.

If he was only allowed in one county, then she could relax and just not go to that county.

He'd be able to change area if he got a job, probably, with limitations and theres no suggestion of putting them all in one place.

InfoSecInTheCity · 11/08/2025 09:12

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TheCurious0range · 11/08/2025 08:52

ConsultMe · 11/08/2025 06:29

This makes little sense to me.

My understanding is there might be be designated roads or HMOs or assisted living places for these men to live? Surely it will just cause worry for those who already live nearby, how are they going to feel comfortable living or raising children in close proximity to these designated areas?

It will basically bring the area down, in that decent people will move away. The area might increase in crime as a result of having a disproportionate amount of offenders living there

This. It'll also be impossible to police.

ShesTheAlbatross · 11/08/2025 08:51

ConsultMe · 11/08/2025 06:29

This makes little sense to me.

My understanding is there might be be designated roads or HMOs or assisted living places for these men to live? Surely it will just cause worry for those who already live nearby, how are they going to feel comfortable living or raising children in close proximity to these designated areas?

It will basically bring the area down, in that decent people will move away. The area might increase in crime as a result of having a disproportionate amount of offenders living there

No I don’t think that’s the case. I could be wrong though.

I heard a woman interviewed about this. She’d been a victim and when her attacker was released, he wasn’t allowed to be in her county (I think) so she felt trapped in that county. She was arguing it should be the other way round - ie he should be restricted to one or two counties and she should be free to go everywhere else, knowing she wouldn’t see him. But it wouldn’t be like they are all put in the same place.

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 11/08/2025 08:51

RayonSunrise · 11/08/2025 07:16

The obsession will be with the fact that our prisons are failing due to chronic underinvestment over many governments for decades, along with many other aspects of the criminal justice system (courts, probation service). There is no money to increase resources or capacity so they are trying to “ease” use instead.

https://news.sky.com/story/prison-system-came-within-days-of-collapse-and-not-just-once-13406971

Nightingale courts. Nightingale hospitals. Now Nightingale prisons.

Done

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/08/2025 08:46

InfoSecInTheCity · 11/08/2025 07:40

Wouldn’t this run the risk of creating areas where property is so devalued that it becomes the only place where particularly vulnerable low income women are able to live thereby forcing the more vulnerable into more dangerous living conditions?

Im thinking of things like what they tried in Holbeck, Leeds where they essentially enabled prostitution and every woman and girl in the area became a target.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-54819248

I agree, and very apt comparison. What about the women and children who already live in these places?

Regularmumm · 11/08/2025 08:13

If they’re considered dangerous still then just keep these criminals locked up fgs.

Seriestwo · 11/08/2025 07:50

So the essay will become “you meet more rapists when you’re poor”?

Fucking hell.
4w.pub/you-meet-more-perverts-when-poor/

InfoSecInTheCity · 11/08/2025 07:40

Wouldn’t this run the risk of creating areas where property is so devalued that it becomes the only place where particularly vulnerable low income women are able to live thereby forcing the more vulnerable into more dangerous living conditions?

Im thinking of things like what they tried in Holbeck, Leeds where they essentially enabled prostitution and every woman and girl in the area became a target.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-54819248

Prostitute working in Holbeck

Pupils approached for sex in Holbeck's managed red light zone

Children say they have been propositioned as they walk to school through Leeds' managed sex zone.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-54819248

RayonSunrise · 11/08/2025 07:16

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 11/08/2025 06:23

Agree with this. What’s the obsession with releasing men who’ve broken the social contract anyway? Lock them up for much, much longer.

The obsession will be with the fact that our prisons are failing due to chronic underinvestment over many governments for decades, along with many other aspects of the criminal justice system (courts, probation service). There is no money to increase resources or capacity so they are trying to “ease” use instead.

https://news.sky.com/story/prison-system-came-within-days-of-collapse-and-not-just-once-13406971

Prison system came 'within days of collapse' - and not just once

The pressure on prisons, which Sir Keir Starmer has previously blamed on the Tories, has seen the government decide to release some prisoners early. Longer term solutions include building more jails and changes to parole.

https://news.sky.com/story/prison-system-came-within-days-of-collapse-and-not-just-once-13406971

ConsultMe · 11/08/2025 06:29

This makes little sense to me.

My understanding is there might be be designated roads or HMOs or assisted living places for these men to live? Surely it will just cause worry for those who already live nearby, how are they going to feel comfortable living or raising children in close proximity to these designated areas?

It will basically bring the area down, in that decent people will move away. The area might increase in crime as a result of having a disproportionate amount of offenders living there

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 11/08/2025 06:23

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 10/08/2025 19:26

Surely if people are considered to be a risk they shouldn't be released, and if they are released then they should have freedom. This seems like it could potentially be a very slippery slope?

Agree with this. What’s the obsession with releasing men who’ve broken the social contract anyway? Lock them up for much, much longer.

IwantToRetire · 10/08/2025 22:09

Basically what they are saying is that men convicted of violence against women dont get long sentences, or are released early,with the result they are back on the streats even though everyone knows they are still violent.

I suspect this is because the previous injunctions or whatever that they shouldn't come near or approach the woman they attacked this doesn't work.

It is whether this makes the women concerned feel safer.

I think.

See comments from the DV service providers.

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 10/08/2025 19:26

Surely if people are considered to be a risk they shouldn't be released, and if they are released then they should have freedom. This seems like it could potentially be a very slippery slope?

parietal · 10/08/2025 19:04

How would that work if the offender gets a job? Or gets a hospital appointment out of zone? There are systems like this in the USA where offenders end up living in tent camps under the motorway flyover with no access to jobs of healthcare because they can’t legally live in towns. And that seems crazy.

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