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Trans inclusion could be “beginning of the end” for female sport - a Sport Ireland report

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/08/2025 08:25

The inclusion of trans athletes in women’s events could signal “the beginning of the end for female sport”, a state body was warned.

A report commissioned by Sport Ireland on transgender participation found that the issue of trans women competing in female events was the most contentious debate among sporting bodies.

Coaches interviewed for the study were said to have “strong feelings”. The report said: “This group expressed empathy and even sympathy towards transgender individuals but typically they were even stronger advocates for keeping females involved in sport and upholding the values of fairness and safety.”

The coaches said they feared the number of teenage female participants would “drop significantly” if transgender and non-binary individuals were allowed to take part in female events.

The study, prepared by Carbmill Consulting in July 2023, reported repeated concerns about trans women using female changing rooms.

One sporting body said it had a policy where participants came dressed in their kit and went home without showering or changing.

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Fears were also raised around the participation of trans women in boxing and martial arts. The report said individuals competing in those sports were “adamant that allowing transgender women to compete against females in their sports was unsafe and possibly unlawful”. More than one interviewee told the authors that watching a trans woman in MMA [mixed martial arts] was “akin to watching footage of violence against women”.

https://www.thetimes.com/world/ireland-world/article/trans-women-sport-ireland-report-cznq2txt5

this is in Ireland, where they have full self ID and everyone is happy and nothing bad happens because of it, apparently.

Trans inclusion ‘could be beginning of the end’ for female sport

A Sport Ireland report finds the issue of trans women competing in female events was the most contentious among sporting bodies

https://www.thetimes.com/world/ireland-world/article/trans-women-sport-ireland-report-cznq2txt5

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/08/2025 09:23

It’s one of the issues which the public around the world overwhelmingly agree on, in a way that doesn’t favour the designs of trans rights activists.

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MyAmpleSheep · 10/08/2025 09:22

Archive link

archive.ph/J1QRY

Helleofabore · 10/08/2025 09:18

Thanks Eresh.

It always feels like gaslighting when we see commentators declare that the majority of athletes, coaches etc support male people being included in female sports categories.

The more reports like this that get published, the more sunlight.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/08/2025 09:16

Here’s the TENI (Trans Equality Network Ireland) sport “digital inclusion toolkit” with links to individual sporting body policies

https://teni.ie/resources/sports/

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/08/2025 09:11

HornyHornersPinkyWinky · 10/08/2025 08:38

I’m glad this report is highlighting the impact on women, but of course there always has to be a ‘sad face’ bit at the end about exclusion and hurty feelings.

I really hate the way the narrative is always about how trans people are being excluded - eh, no! They’re not being excluded, they can absolutely compete in the correct sex category for their sport. Nobody is banning them from all sport, what nonsense.

The concerns raised on the female side and shared by the trainers, coaches, volunteers etc sound much more compelling and serious than the sadface ones. But we know how these things generally pan out so I’ll be interested to see any new guidelines.

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HornyHornersPinkyWinky · 10/08/2025 08:38

I’m glad this report is highlighting the impact on women, but of course there always has to be a ‘sad face’ bit at the end about exclusion and hurty feelings.

I really hate the way the narrative is always about how trans people are being excluded - eh, no! They’re not being excluded, they can absolutely compete in the correct sex category for their sport. Nobody is banning them from all sport, what nonsense.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/08/2025 08:31

The report did spare a thought for some sad men though

In interviews, transgender athletes described moves to exclude them as having left them “heartbroken, distraught, gutted and betrayed”. The report said: “Some of these were difficult to hear, and it was clear that emotions were very strong.”
It concluded that it would be difficult to find compromises, with views on both sides “polarised”.

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TheKeatingFive · 10/08/2025 08:28

Great find. I'm glad this subject is being investigated in more detail in Ireland.

For all that the country has banged on about how important women's sport is - it is disgraceful how it capitulated to the trans lobby.