Trans inclusion could be “beginning of the end” for female sport - a Sport Ireland report

Another attempt to cancel John Boyne. Pompous nonentities withdrawing from the Polari Book prize because he is long listed.
Pleased to see his books displayed in my nearest Easons . I'm going to get ppl one for Christmas. Like I did with Glinners Tough Crowd.

To be fair they could padlock Usain to the starting blocks and he would still beat most of us. 🙂

But it really does beggar belief when the whole premise of sport lies with the ideas that you test yourself against your peers and that people who cheat are reviled. Playing fair and knowing that your achievement is because of your own effort and skill is where the satisfaction of competition and winning lies. There can be no feeling of achievement if you are blatantly treading over weaker, smaller fellow competitors to reach the podium.

So you have to ask yourself why do some TIM feel the need to muscle in on womens sport, and the only possible answer is that , like so many other things , it is about male entitlement and deeply felt misogyny. Sad bastards.

Ah no, the plastic sticks are just for the tiny little trainee hurlers like her:-)
But ash die-back disease is a challenge for hurley-makers.
[Ash is to hurling sticks what willow is to cricket bats].

That was some match yesterday, wasn't it Abhann? 'Hotly contested' is putting it mildly! Well done Galway. Poor old Cork aren't having much of a year.

I was going to reminisce about Galway men winning the hurling and the captain's speech ending with him singing 'The West's Awake', but I remembered I'm not on Craicnet so I I won't get all Celtic-twilight-y on here😃

Aw. What a little dote. Well done Galway btw and bad luck Cork in the Final. I hope plastic is not to become a permanent replacement for the lovely ash hurleys.

What the hell has non binary got to do with sex segregated sport?

But the really good news, according to @SuggestionsPlease1on another thread, is that Ireland is is in the top 10 countries for gender equality. Presumably the systematic destruction of women's sports isn't included in 'gender equality'.

That is the sound of the penny starting to drop...

It’s just basic common sense that the inclusion of males in female sport is the end of it. The males barging their way in to destroy it proves exactly what kind of men they are. Identifying as something, rather than with it, is appropriation.

“heartbroken, distraught, gutted and betrayed”

Well go cry

I am sure it is upsetting but it is not an argument

"It concluded that it would be difficult to find compromises"

Well this is obvious from the start, you are either for female sport being for females of the female sex or you are not

Now that's real hate. Hating women so much you close down the whole sport rather than allow them their own division.

Just one man in women's sport impacts hundreds of women, from the team members expected to welcome him, the woman who loses her place to him, the opponents expected to play against him, the supporters expected to cheer him on, the young girls in the stands losing interest in taking up the sport....

Just like a mediocre adult of either sex can't expect to just enter the under-7s events if they aren't good enough to compete with their own peers in their own category. What actual glory would you derive from being 28 and proving that you can beat little kids?!

Reminds me of Competitive Dad on The Fast Show. The behaviour of these men muscling into women’s sports is just as ridiculous.

It definitely comes from a huge place of privilege and an assumption that only they amd their feelings actually have any relevance.

Not quite the same thing, but I've thought similar in the past when reading 'news' articles about how terribly sad it is when the royals can't get to spend Christmas together as a family for whatever reason.

Those 'robots' who look very suspiciously like human people, who cook, clean, serve and do everything else for them over the festive period (and the rest of the year) - they obviously wouldn't have their own families that they might miss not being able to spend Christmas with as well...

Except at least, in that situation, it isn't the royals themselves who (publicly) sorrow in missing out. When it comes to this lot, they place themselves right at the very forefront all the way.

I saw this cute photo and had to share it - camogie players start young😄

This is appalling

It's happening here already in the states:

Minnesota Fencing Division Eliminates Women's Competitions Rather Than Ban Trans Athletes: https://www.outkick.com/analysis/minnesota-fencing-division-eliminates-womens-competitions

From GCN News - I know, I know, I shouldn't be giving it clicks🙄
One such person who is challenging the hate-fueled action is Giulia Valentino, an Italian trans woman living in Dublin. Giulia plays GAA with the LGBTQ+-inclusive club Na Gaeil Aeracha, and while there have been many positives for her, there have also, unfortunately, been many difficult times.

Note that Na Gaeil Aeracha means 'The Gay Gaels' - now we all know that transpeople are not gay, which is the main rationale for LGB✂T, so what is a trans-identifying male doing playing on a gay team? Simples- he is also a lesbian!

I haven't heard anything about Giulia recently, I suspect he has gone back full-time to his fetish websites and BDSM performances.

What is it with TRAs and Americanisms like 'bathroom' for toilet - opposition to a man playing on a women's team on this side of the Atlantic is not 'hate-fueled' it is 'hate fuelled'😡
Pedantry jostles for primacy in my head with GCness, as you can see - if you're going to call me hate-fuelled, at least spell it right, dammit!😁

And doesn't 'difficult times' evoke Dr Upton's 'sad times'?

Giulio , can't recall his surname. He is very passionate about Gaelic Football apparently. Despite being an Italian who lived in London until very recently. Where he worked in BDSM club called Torture Garden iirc.

The usual pathway right? I was always into BDSM as a little girl so it was sort of inevitable I'd try out for a Junior Camogie team in Tipperary. That whole connection ....🙄

We are not one bit happy about it . Though TRAs frequently use Ireland as an example of how well Self ID works. It will have to be Repealed or heavily amended , before someone gets hurt. We are also a very litigious society.....

Just in case anyone is confused the bald man on the right in black and burgundy is the transwoman. He isn't the ref.

“heartbroken, distraught, gutted and betrayed”

How do they think women feel about their sporting category being invaded by men. I've got ZF2G, the cry bullying and emotional blackmail goes right over my head now.

I don't think it is happening much in practice.

Which is true of Ireland more generally. Our NGO class pushed all this bullshit through, but on the ground, most Irish families are not supportive of their relatives causing this kind of big drama and creating controversy in the community.

I am only aware of a handful of prominent Irish trans identifying people and they are all either foreign or students, which stacks up to me. Oh and Mary Lou's brother.

As for the GAA, I'd say many officials are mortified by the whole thing, but also terrified of tripping up. The GAA need a way to step this down quietly.

It’s ridiculous it even needs saying, yet such a relief that someone is speaking up!