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Typicalwave · 2025-08-08T16:02:40+00:00

I’m 50. My bladder is hanging at my vaginal entrance. I can barely function. And I’m told my symptoms of extreme discomfort, Bach ache, bag ache, tingling, urinary incontinence, urgency, and no relief from needing the loo cant possibly be to do with the entire entrance of my vagina being blocked by a bulge frok my bladder. I can’t work, I can’t reliably walk my dog, I can’t even spend an hour cleaning without paying the price. Meanwhile mentally ill men are having HRT, and bottom surgery because they ‘feel’ uncomfortable. Im fucking raging.

OutsideLookingOut · 09/08/2025 08:37

And then people wonder too why the birth rate is dropping! I hope it dwindles to hell. I hate how women's health issues are treated. I am still hoping for the best for you OP!

Typicalwave · 09/08/2025 08:24

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Typicalwave · 09/08/2025 08:14

begone25 · 09/08/2025 07:55

Can you change your GP? If not I’d be tempted to contact them daily until they give you the pessary, refer you etc. YANBU

My GP is not the problem. They have written on my behalf for a second opinion as they disagree with the consultant.

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begone25 · 09/08/2025 07:55

Can you change your GP? If not I’d be tempted to contact them daily until they give you the pessary, refer you etc. YANBU

Anchorage56 · 09/08/2025 07:54

Typicalwave · 09/08/2025 07:49

Thanks for the advice.

it’s not about other surgical procedures impacting on Gynecology. The whole point is women’s lives are being ruined for actial debilitating gynaecological issues, women’s lives are being ruined whilst they're ignored told to pop pills and learn to live with it - with actial real physical conditions causing physical and mental health ll health whilst men who insist they have a feeling in their heads are receiving surgery that isn’t medically needed.

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Are you also angry at women who have had boob jobs on the NHS? Or have had ugly moles removed for cosmetic reasons. Both are not needed medically.

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Typicalwave · 09/08/2025 07:49

RH1234 · 08/08/2025 23:25

I can’t imagine how you’re feeling; my advice would be to
Recontact PALs

If you can, get a private GP appointment (£50-250), depending on area/surgery etc. They can also refer. Above this is a private consultation, that you can then take back to the NHS.

If you are not already doing, ensure you are writing a comprehensive pain management, discomfort and limitation log. Whilst this takes time it’s evidence to show at appointments how this is affecting your life. Make sure they annotate this on system one/records that they have seen and discussed this.
If your situation goes on longer than what is deemed reasonable (I know you feel you are past this), it’s a great way to show negligence.

In regards to other surgical procedures, sadly this is the system. The healthcare professionals doing those procedures are unlikely to be the ones able to assist you and their procedure is not likely to impact on your waiting time. I know this is super frustrating, but reality. I wouldn’t want a orthopaedic surgeon doing neuro surgery on me let’s put it that way.

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Thanks for the advice.

it’s not about other surgical procedures impacting on Gynecology. The whole point is women’s lives are being ruined for actial debilitating gynaecological issues, women’s lives are being ruined whilst they're ignored told to pop pills and learn to live with it - with actial real physical conditions causing physical and mental health ll health whilst men who insist they have a feeling in their heads are receiving surgery that isn’t medically needed.

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Typicalwave · 09/08/2025 07:40

Spartan123 · 08/08/2025 22:47

My mum has this. Bladder is out of vagina most days. They try another Pessary, but same thing happen. She is in so much pain. Waiting list for operation - 7 years. 7 years with her bladder hanging out. I’m beyond angry. I hope you are ok OP,I’ve seen how much pain it causes her xx

She’s been on a theatre waiting list for 7 years?

I may as well off myself now. No security. No job soon. No life.

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Anchorage56 · 09/08/2025 06:50

Insideshangingout · 08/08/2025 21:41

And perhaps she was expecting him to behave like a partner rather than a sulking brat because he can't get his leg over?

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If someone hates men including the man she is with then it's an obvious question. But she has explained she cant leave him.

Insideshangingout · 09/08/2025 02:30

Spartan123 · 08/08/2025 22:47

My mum has this. Bladder is out of vagina most days. They try another Pessary, but same thing happen. She is in so much pain. Waiting list for operation - 7 years. 7 years with her bladder hanging out. I’m beyond angry. I hope you are ok OP,I’ve seen how much pain it causes her xx

SEVEN YEARS??? 😲

Oh dear god this doesn't bode well. I've already been through this pantomime, had my first surgery several years ago now. Now I have a rectal prolapse (not sure which was more fun, uterus hanging out of my fanjo or the insides of my rectum hanging out of my arse. I suppose at least I didn't have constant fecal incontinence first time around 🙄). Been on the waiting list for see a consultant since January. Not even a referral to physio in the mean time. No scan to assess severity. Nothing. Turned down for PIP too (that will delight some people) so diddly squat chance of paying privately (on top of longterm trauma focussed counselling and physio for leg injuries I'm already paying for because not available on nhs).

Every time I overlift anything I shit myself.

Living my life to the full, people! <Sarcasm>

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RH1234 · 08/08/2025 23:25

I can’t imagine how you’re feeling; my advice would be to
Recontact PALs

If you can, get a private GP appointment (£50-250), depending on area/surgery etc. They can also refer. Above this is a private consultation, that you can then take back to the NHS.

If you are not already doing, ensure you are writing a comprehensive pain management, discomfort and limitation log. Whilst this takes time it’s evidence to show at appointments how this is affecting your life. Make sure they annotate this on system one/records that they have seen and discussed this.
If your situation goes on longer than what is deemed reasonable (I know you feel you are past this), it’s a great way to show negligence.

In regards to other surgical procedures, sadly this is the system. The healthcare professionals doing those procedures are unlikely to be the ones able to assist you and their procedure is not likely to impact on your waiting time. I know this is super frustrating, but reality. I wouldn’t want a orthopaedic surgeon doing neuro surgery on me let’s put it that way.

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Typicalwave · 08/08/2025 23:16

LegoNinjago · 08/08/2025 23:10

Ffs🙄

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Exactly,I need to feel guilty for getting in line behind men who want to PRETEND TO BE women.

let me make my feelings abundantly clear on this.

FUCK
THEIR
RETROGADED
DISPENSIBLE
UNDESIRABLE
LADY
DICK

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LegoNinjago · 08/08/2025 23:10

Lemonadeat8 · 08/08/2025 19:56

You are pointing the blame at a very small minority.

My friend works full time as a midwife, has two under 2 with a severe prolapse. You can still live your life.

Ffs🙄

Spartan123 · 08/08/2025 22:47

My mum has this. Bladder is out of vagina most days. They try another Pessary, but same thing happen. She is in so much pain. Waiting list for operation - 7 years. 7 years with her bladder hanging out. I’m beyond angry. I hope you are ok OP,I’ve seen how much pain it causes her xx

ThinkingaboutMJ · 08/08/2025 22:45

I have PCOS and other hormonal issues ,.one of the symptoms is male pattern hirsutism, my doctor asked if I'd considered laser a while back after I explained how much it was affecting me. I optimistically said yes but it's very expensive a referral would be great, she then said oh no you'd have to fund privately. I asked if that would be the case if I was biologically male and identified as a woman, rather than a biological woman with a medical condition she said she didn't want to discuss politics.

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Typicalwave · 08/08/2025 22:41

At this point I feel I should sit at home a la Father Jack bevause apparently I haven’t tried hard enoygh, I’m too mentally unwell, or I just don’t fit the right mold…

Behinning to wonder if I’m k the die hard TERF man hating, high security seriel killer man hating bots that yhe rest of the world believed is the MN biological reality board…m
I think there may be a problem here….

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Typicalwave · 08/08/2025 22:35

FumingTRex · 08/08/2025 22:30

Who says you arent a candidate for a pessary? I would go back to your GP and push they can just write a prescription for it. Also go back to physio and ask them.

Ok.

so

Im still on a waiting list for physio - almost three months…it has been chased by GP

NHS consultant had said im not a candidate bevause my ‘(very typical symptoms) are nothing to do with the prolapse I have.

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FumingTRex · 08/08/2025 22:30

Who says you arent a candidate for a pessary? I would go back to your GP and push they can just write a prescription for it. Also go back to physio and ask them.

Enough4me · 08/08/2025 22:26

I have no advice, no experience of this, but think you're right to vent as it sounds like you've been fobbed off.
I'd be annoyed too when NHS time and money is spent on others having unnecessary procedures due to mental health delusions conditions.

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Typicalwave · 08/08/2025 22:23

Kendodd · 08/08/2025 22:21

Oh, and Google predicted questions. I asked - can trans women get... first suggestion was - pregnant.
Really?
People are googling to ask if trans women can get pregnant???

Oh my lovely, you are way behind the curve.

come join us on the Dark Side - where we scoff a sociological gender bollocjs and have the audacity to ask for science based discourse.

It’s a total party

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Kendodd · 08/08/2025 22:23

Kendodd · 08/08/2025 22:17

Just Googled as I didn't believe trans women could get gender surgery on the NHS. Turns out you can and this seems to be standard treatment for those who want it.

Oh, and what exactly will happen to them if the don't get trans surgery? What great harm will they come to?

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Typicalwave · 08/08/2025 22:21

Kendodd · 08/08/2025 22:17

Just Googled as I didn't believe trans women could get gender surgery on the NHS. Turns out you can and this seems to be standard treatment for those who want it.

Yes. Men absoloutly can have bottom surgery…years before women suffering all sorts of issues or even - gasp - wanting to have their uterus removed (inked they say theyre a man trapped in a woman’s body) - and they generally csn have it much quicker than women get treated for actual real material biological issues with real symptoms .

Welcome to the Twilight Zone

Also, my adult child is ‘trans’ - it’s a hoot

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Kendodd · 08/08/2025 22:21

Oh, and Google predicted questions. I asked - can trans women get... first suggestion was - pregnant.
Really?
People are googling to ask if trans women can get pregnant???

Kendodd · 08/08/2025 22:17

Just Googled as I didn't believe trans women could get gender surgery on the NHS. Turns out you can and this seems to be standard treatment for those who want it.

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Typicalwave · 08/08/2025 22:07

FumingTRex · 08/08/2025 20:24

Hi OP, so sorry to hear this. You can get a pessary from your GP. There is a type you can put in and out yourself and it may help your symptoms while you get something else sorted.

The physio clearly didnt think it was minor so i would mention that in your complaint .

No, I cannot get a pessary from my GP in my area. And I’m not a candidate snyway.

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