Single sex spaces

Oh. Look. Here is the full interaction that has been twisted out of context.

ByTealFish • Today 16:03

No? It's not a 'fuckhole', and it's also not an open wound as some have said, it's no more of a wound than any other vagina. It's a body cavity lined by epithelial tissue. It's not a gaping hole into your abdominal cavity.

Dilation simply helps the muscles around it stay open and stops scars from causing it to contract.

Cis women who undergo certain types of vaginal surgery have to dilate too for the same reasons.

Non-inversion vaginoplasty is also performed on cis women who require reconstruction after severe injury and the like. It's a vagina, not a gaping wound.

And my answer.

Today 16:12

What is the purpose of this inserted cavity again?

There is NO purpose other than to be a fuckhole or to represent a fuckhole if it is even usable. Do you understand what we are saying? Or are you programmed to believe in falsehoods.

Just because a female person might have a similar process doesn’t make it a ‘vagina’ when inserted into male body. A female person’s reconstructive surgery is just that, replacing a body part. Not creating a false one. A female reconstruction has other body mechanisms to support it including a vulva and a cervix and a uterus etc.

I happened to have it open on another device so I copied and posted it.

The context is as I said it was. I was only replying to the poster who was doubling down on female vaginas and reconstructed vaginas being directly comparative with a cavity inserted in a male groin. I was very clear that female vaginas are not comparable. In fact, I said this quite clearly:

“A female person’s reconstructive surgery is just that, replacing a body part. Not creating a false one.”

It is quite something to see the fuckwittery attempted on this thread.

The Supreme Court has spoken. So shut the fuck up now you mangina maniacal linguistical gymnast.

Seems unlikely, given that a Woman wouldn't need male arousal, would she.

Would that be because of its role in male arousal, perchance?

It would make sense, wouldn't it. Since only men have those, so a Women (let's give the poor chap a capital initial: he needs all the help he can get) doesn't need one.

actually and seriously, is this done? removing the prostate as part of attempted resexing, I mean?

Edited to add; the answer seems to be "sometimes, but by no means always". Hmmmm.

Why not remove the prostate at the same time though?

Helleofabore
Can you please state the 'function' of a cavity that has been inserted into a male body?

I'll have a stab at that, since it clearly is not going to get an answer from the person you are asking.

The function of a cavity (this particular sort of cavity, anyway; there may be others) inserted into a male body is to bolster the mistaken belief of a male person that he can pretend to be a female person with even the slightest degree of credibility – at least, he can do so among the credulous.

And if I stick a mane on a lioness it doesn't make it a lion.

I see people with DSDs have been co-opted into the debate again...

Well, we have spent quite a bit of time looking at trans-identified males and females irl and online and the vast majority of them do look like their actual sex, especially when you see them move and hear them talk. I think you are imagining that lots of them 'pass' because you are looking at filtered photos online, carefully posed so that you cannot judge the scale of their hands, the shape of their hips and so on.

Why would a person that 'looks' like a female but is male be entitled to use the female single sex provisions?

Just because they have extreme body modifications?

There are other types of extreme body modifications. For instance, if someone undergoes extensive body modifications to resemble their favourite animal, should that person be considered as that animal?

If someone 'looks' like a young teenager but is in their twenties and not enrolled in school, should they be treated like the age they feel and may even 'look'?

Why does this group of male people get these additional privileges, access to female single sex spaces, when other male people don't?

Wait! What? Transwomen will go into single sex spaces even though they know it can make lots of women uncomfortable*? They sound terrible.

*in reality most people know that truly passing transwomen may continue to use the ladies, and no one would know. There are however only about 5 of them.

I don't tend to use public baths, but if you mean toilets, if anyone can use any toilet, that includes 'red-blooded cis men'. If you think toilets should be mixed then you are free to make that argument, but you seem to be erroneously assuming that 'red-blooded cis men' could be kept out of a toilet that they wanted to use as though there is a clear way to distinguish between trans women and 'cis' men.

Well, in photos they might. But the perceptions change quite often in real life.

And those hips do not lie. (meaning that female movement doesn't lie)

And yet, the SC judgement thought of that very thing and discussed options to address "a woman walked into the bathroom and actually saw a massive, burly trans man".

Strangely, the trans men that come and post on MN tell us that they understand that they might cause other women and girls distress if they have taken testosterone, so the ones who post generally tell us they seek alternative solutions.

"I feel like the reality of the situation isn’t what people are imagining."

Maybe you should hang around and read for yourself when female people who have taken testosterone post as many of us have read. I think that we actually do have an understanding of reality of the situation.

Or, as I said to a friend earlier today, if I stick a mane on my cat it doesn't make it a lion.

lol.

’massive burly’ is not an accurate descriptor for any of the transmen I have ever met or read about or seen on tv.

Well, then, I suppose trans women who are very female looking will be in the women’s. But they shouldn’t be, according to a lot of people.

A flayed and inverted penis could be described as ‘fuckhole’ if you insist but it’s deffo not a vagina.

You can’t turn a penis into a vagina in the same way you can’t make a liver into a lung.

I know, but I reckon if a woman walked into the bathroom and actually saw a massive, burly trans man in there she’d feel a bit taken aback. On the other hand, she might not even register if a trans woman was in there.

I feel like the reality of the situation isn’t what people are imagining.

I'm going to need a bigger bingo card

Transmen who are 'very, very male looking' will be in the men's. HTH

Both!

You aren't even pretending anymore.

You aren't a feminist if you don't accept that men who decide to get a cavity are the same as women albeit women with disorders because you are being mean to these biological women.

No.

The attempt at smearing doesn't stick.

We see you.

We did from the word go.

So I don't have to read the whole thread are they doing "what about transmen?" or "what about biological women who don't have uteri (or other bits)?". I'm a big fan of the last one as it reveals they do, in fact, know exactly what a woman is.