Misinformation correction: M&S Staff

The problem is that they were male. Their identity/fashion choices don't matter at all.

The mother and daughter recognised the employee as male. Something we all do every day with the people we meet, with high accuracy.

I tried to find out if Rachel is a journalist. There's one that pops up on the independent for having two freelance opinion pieces mouthing off at Zac Goldsmith and Boris Johnson. From the look of her ramblings on twitter it probably is.

She did an anti Elon flounce from twitter.

Her twitter says she previously worked for a comments moderation agency until 2018, with major news orgs as clients.

In a post from 2023 she stated that 'what I think is that the TERFs/GC were very effective at legitimising their arguments by wrapping it up in academic language, which makes it more appealing to lawmakers/media. It's all very Trump and 'legitimate economic concerns'.

In other words she didn't like it very much when people came along with coherent arguments and due process. They don't really work for a censor who thought she should have the power to decide right and wrong and impose it on everyone else rather than listening, engaging and increasing understanding.

So she's one of the nameless who controlled the conversation about this for so long and still seems bewildered at a backlash demanding accountability.

Notably in terms of balance and fairness it's worth having a look at her position on things in that context.

Oddly enough she knows all the 'right' causes and has all the 'right' political opinions.

Oh and she complains about her freedom of speech being violated by the government in 2023. Which is quite funny for someone who has been paid in the past to be a censor and thinks that gender critical views shouldn't be allowed and aren't legitimate!

It's most enlightening.

in the real world as opposed to the make believe world occupied by TRA, any company dragged through the social media mire the way M&S have been would be issuing statements and press releases from the rooftops denying the story and saying the employee wasn't trans. I mean why on earth wouldn't they??

Why would M&S even apologise if the assistant wasn’t Trans?

Strange.

Sorry to break it to you, but most “trans women” are very obviously male @ByTealFish

So do the male employees in the grocery dept offer women in the toiletry aisle help choosing sanitary ware?

nope because it would be highly inappropriate as is this

Not much point in including a link which demands I log into a social medium I'm not a member of. 🙄

Is that the thing that is supposed to be ‘correcting’ misinformation? An email that doesn’t address the safeguarding failures of a male person approaching a female teenager in a bra department?

Fuck! That really does show the ineptitude of the OP to understand the actual issue rather than the completely superficial issue they think is the concern.

Again, great posting there OP! That beacon is shining on misogyny and safeguarding red flags very brightly through your posts.

I fully expect all the GCs and media pundits who were pushing all sorts of hate to apologise, but as a person on their second LGBTQ moral panic I know very well how it goes.

Nobody cares, Bee. Nobody cares. HTH.

Anyone trying to undermine safeguarding principles on a parenting forum = RED FLAG.

You know when you get phishing emails, do you bother to check whether the account is from amazon or imanobviousscammer.co.uk?

M&S have an official account. Why they would put on a press release on a random account on bluesky somewhat escapes me.

What this seems to have come from (and I can't find an image that has the whole message) is this:

The points of concern STILL remain anyway.

Those points, in case you actually care are:
Where does a conversation go after "can i help you?" in the middle of the lingerie department?
Is it appropriate for a male employee to do this to a teenage girl in the middle of the lingerie department?
Do M&S have an adequate safeguarding policy?

M&S may frame this as 'just doing job', however if they fail to have an adequate safeguarding and staff training policy, their PR and complaints department STILL might not be grasping why women are so concerned and why this REMAINS an inadequate response. Even if it is a legitimate one.

As it goes the mother feels M&S response has been inadequate and has emails saying to the contrary to what M&S have said publicly.

So there is STILL an issue. One that M&S have STILL failed to address to all their other customers.

Stop spreading misinformation that this is a non-incident. There are still questions that M&S need to adequately answer EVEN IF THEY ARE SATISFIED THERE ISN'T A PROBLEM BECAUSE PUBLIC TRUST HAS GONE DUE TO REPEATED ISSUES ON THIS SUBJECT FOR THE COMPANY.

HTH

Either way, the OP again shows not only that they have no understanding of safeguarding children. But also no fucking understanding of what the experience of being female is

nails it 🙌

Is Bee doing a plop and run again?

BTW: Bingo!

Nobody can read it so literally "nothing to see here".

Sorry I got banned from bluesky so cant see this

indeed.

Either way, the OP again shows not only that they have no understanding of safeguarding children. But also no fucking understanding of what the experience of being female is.

Well done again OP! Keep going. Your posts shine a beacon on the misogyny that is inherent to a group of male people who claim to be women and girls because they have a particular philosophical belief that doesn’t reflect material reality at all.

Do we expect anything else from this poster? All I’ve ever read from them is deflection, misinformation and misogyny.

If M&S have clarified, why isn’t it on twitter from M&S?

Is this just a weak attempt to get traffic to someone’s blue sky account?

If you want to engage, post the announcement. Otherwise, you are spreading the very misinformation you claim to be clearing up.

I don't know what you're reading OP, but this is what we all read.

Marks & Spencer has apologised to a mother for causing her teenage daughter “distress” after she was asked if she needed help by a transgender employee in its bra section.
The retailer said it was “truly sorry”

The account in the OP is @dpdormouse.bsky.social

On its website M&S has links for Facebook, X, Pinterest and Instagram accounts. There is no link to a Bluesky account.
https://www.marksandspencer.com/

I can’t see what it says op. I don’t have a blue sky account and I don’t want one.

Any chance you might be able to supply a screenshot?

Thats a hidden message, non public

It's not M&S making the announcement

M&S apologised - so it sounds pretty legit to everyone else.

If you have more concrete evidence we'd love to hear it

A screenshot would help.

There’s been no disinformation.

A male staff member approached a solo teen girl in the lingerie department, offering to help.

There doesn’t need to be any exaggeration. That information is enough. Red flag. Training needed. Men do not approach underage girls in the lingerie department.