Page 16 | Misinformation correction: M&S Staff

BeeSourianteAgain · 2025-08-08T13:03:46+00:00

M&S have responded to people's enquiries, here's one: [[https://bsky.app/profile/dpdormouse.bsky.social/post/3lvuzitrplc2f https://bsky.app/profile/dpdormouse.bsky.social/post/3lvuzitrplc2f]] As expected the staff member was just doing their job, something that happens thousands of times a day in shops all over the country. As per normal, the trans panic was manufactured. I fully expect all the GCs and media pundits who were pushing all sorts of hate to apologise, but as a person on their second LGBTQ moral panic I know very well how it goes.

moggly · 11/08/2025 22:19

BundleBoogie · 11/08/2025 09:25

I was just checking in to see if OP had actually provided this statement from M&S correcting the ‘misinformation’ but find that he hasn’t been back at all. What a surprise.

He's too busy posting about "genital ID cards" on Bluesky instead.

Brainworm · 11/08/2025 22:10

M&S probably should have treated the request for the CCTV footage when it was requested. I say probably, because they may consider 14 years old is sufficient for the child to determine for themselves what to do with their data.

Either way, they should have provided a written explanation as why they won’t provide it. I expect the ICO will require then to do so if the child themselves makes the request. They may choose to pixelate the accused assistant, it is likely that all hell would be unleashed on him if footage was shared on SM. As much as I think his behaviour is unacceptable, I don’t think his identity should be made public.

ThatBlackCat · 11/08/2025 21:49

CarpeVitam · 11/08/2025 21:26

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Why did you do that, @CarpeVitam ?

CarpeVitam · 11/08/2025 21:26

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Helleofabore · 11/08/2025 18:58

”you must retain Jaguar levels of confidence of your commercial invincibility.”

Baroness N strikes again with a turn of phrase that should be preserved as a classic for all time.

murasaki · 11/08/2025 14:09

I'm seeing the zombie walk in Sean of the Dead towards the bras.

murasaki · 11/08/2025 14:08

SionnachRuadh · 11/08/2025 14:04

I can imagine how this goes.

Shift manager: Ok Tiffany, you're on the bread aisle today. We might want you on the cheese counter later.

Tiffany: Must... go... to... bra department... there might be... teen girl who needs advice

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Damn the lack of the laugh emoticon.

SionnachRuadh · 11/08/2025 14:04

murasaki · 11/08/2025 13:55

It's amazing how they seem to gravitate there, like there's a massive TIM magnet hidden amongst the lingerie.

I can imagine how this goes.

Shift manager: Ok Tiffany, you're on the bread aisle today. We might want you on the cheese counter later.

Tiffany: Must... go... to... bra department... there might be... teen girl who needs advice

TheKeatingFive · 11/08/2025 13:57

StellaAndCrow · 11/08/2025 13:46

Oh FFS. So he literally was just passing by (or lurking) and thought he'd ask a teenage girl about her underwear?

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Yep. Class A creep.

murasaki · 11/08/2025 13:55

It's amazing how they seem to gravitate there, like there's a massive TIM magnet hidden amongst the lingerie.

SionnachRuadh · 11/08/2025 13:52

StellaAndCrow · 11/08/2025 13:46

Oh FFS. So he literally was just passing by (or lurking) and thought he'd ask a teenage girl about her underwear?

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That's what it looks like. It seems M&S have a bit of a track record of putting TIMs in the lingerie dept, but it escalates further if TIMs they employ in other areas just gravitate towards the lingerie dept on their own initiative and think (being very charitable about this) that they'll have a nice girly conversation about bras with that embarrassed looking teenage girl they've spotted.

StellaAndCrow · 11/08/2025 13:46

TheKeatingFive · 11/08/2025 11:30

There was no cross cover arrangement,

He wasn't supposed to be there. Homeware is on another floor entirely it seems.

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Oh FFS. So he literally was just passing by (or lurking) and thought he'd ask a teenage girl about her underwear?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/08/2025 12:36

That’s such a great letter!

Bonden · 11/08/2025 12:32

that letter provides thrilling pleasure in every line. Well done Baroness, and thank you.

murasaki · 11/08/2025 12:32

I liked the way she started with Mr Norman and immediately dropped to Archie, like she was scolding a naughty little boy.

SionnachRuadh · 11/08/2025 12:29

I love a good Baroness letter.

Archie Norman must feel like he's just been given his homework.

SabrinaThwaite · 11/08/2025 12:26

Her letter is a corker.

Attached here for those not on TwiX.

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 11/08/2025 12:14

... you must retain Jaguar levels of confidence of your commercial invincibility.

Baroness Emma Nicholson has a great turn of phrase

murasaki · 11/08/2025 11:51

I do love a letter from the Baroness.

Madcats · 11/08/2025 11:41

The heroine that is Baroness Emma Nicholson has now written to M&S:
https://x.com/Baroness_Nichol/status/1954845229217157307

https://x.com/Baroness_Nichol/status/1954845229217157307

TheKeatingFive · 11/08/2025 11:30

StellaAndCrow · 11/08/2025 11:20

Is it true that the member of staff was supposed to be working in Homeware? That's a very different department - somehow I'd assumed that if not assigned to lingerie the person had come over from women's clothing. Homeware seems an unlikely cross-cover arrangement.

There was no cross cover arrangement,

He wasn't supposed to be there. Homeware is on another floor entirely it seems.

StellaAndCrow · 11/08/2025 11:20

Is it true that the member of staff was supposed to be working in Homeware? That's a very different department - somehow I'd assumed that if not assigned to lingerie the person had come over from women's clothing. Homeware seems an unlikely cross-cover arrangement.

cosimarama · 11/08/2025 10:27

heathspeedwell · 11/08/2025 08:57

Does anyone who is on Twitter know if M&S have agreed to give the girl's mum the CCTV footage?

I suspect it will clearly show that the trans identified man had at least two different customers he could approach, (the girl or her mum who was looking at other things) but he chose to approach the little girl who was looking at bras.

And before anyone moans about me calling a 14 year old girl 'little', the average height of a 14 year old girl is around 5 foot 2. The trans identified man was 6 foot 2 so he was obviously towering over her.

She has asked for it twice and they refused, she says today she’s putting in a DSAR to try and get it. She’s posted part of an email she sent to them.

BundleBoogie · 11/08/2025 09:25

I was just checking in to see if OP had actually provided this statement from M&S correcting the ‘misinformation’ but find that he hasn’t been back at all. What a surprise.

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 11/08/2025 09:05

heathspeedwell · 11/08/2025 08:57

Does anyone who is on Twitter know if M&S have agreed to give the girl's mum the CCTV footage?

I suspect it will clearly show that the trans identified man had at least two different customers he could approach, (the girl or her mum who was looking at other things) but he chose to approach the little girl who was looking at bras.

And before anyone moans about me calling a 14 year old girl 'little', the average height of a 14 year old girl is around 5 foot 2. The trans identified man was 6 foot 2 so he was obviously towering over her.

5ft 2!! looks at 13yo next to me and wonders what went wrong.

Actually in this case being on the smaller side wouldn't surprise me as size is one of the triggers for puberty. Which is why we went through all of the first bra issues a couple of years ago.