European Convention on Human Rights

Id love to know if someone who is "very aware that I cannot literally become a biological woman" is a, is in fact,a woman, what is the criteria for being a woman or being a man?

And why we would need separate facilities for men and women under this criteria?

Its not biology because TW do not have female biology, its not gender dysphoria, its not breasts, its not clothes, its not reproductive role. It cant be other people perception if its not biology or clothes. It cant be an inner feeling because, how can that be tested? And why would separate spaces be needed.

We arent going to have the definition of a women being whatever a man says it is, are we?

do you never worry though that you will go through all that surgery and it still won't be enough? i'm always really interested in findings such as this "The most frequently reported reason for detransitioning by both sexes was that their personal definition of male and female had changed so that they became more comfortable identifying with their birth sex" (taken from https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10322945/#:~:text=A%20minority%20of%20participants%20experienced,related%20medical%20interventions%20they%20received.). Some of my relief at the supreme court judgement and the start of rowing back of a decade or more of loss of womens rights over single sex spaces is that it may help to stop dragging yet more vulnerable young people into this ideology. You say that more and more young people are pro- trans...i'm extremely glad that my teen girls and their friends have been able to explore their emerging sexuality without homophobia , and they are indeed a tolerant generation, but it's no concidence that the 3 girls they have known at primary/secondary school who identify as boys are all autistic and have mental health challenges.

I can't imagine it would be difficult to establish mens rea

And with that an entire generation of lawyers hits the scrap heap 😀

I only judge politicians by the actus rea - (just to give Bing some more homework). Everyday folk deserve the benefit of the doubt.

But you’re not a woman. If you were a woman you wouldn’t be a tallwoman.

I was was about a foot tall and only weighed a few kilos when I was born. Some things change! My gender is one of them.

I mean your ideology disproportionately harms women of colour who don't confirm to Western standards of beauty.

There could be no such thing as gender stereotypes and I'd still be trans. Being trans has nothing to do with feminity or masculinity.

I am trans because the primary sex characteristics I was born with, and the secondary sex characteristics I developed before I stopped my puberty make me uncomfortable, and feel like they do not belong attached to me.

Most of the time I'm wearing the most gender neutral clothing I can because its comfortable. I have never cared about masculinity or femininity, they're both bullshit.

What do you mean by this? I'd like you to explain it in your own words.

so if i start surreptitiously putting my hrt patches on my husband, does that mean he will turn into a woman?

All my identity documents say female, my secondary sex characteristics are female and soon my primary ones will be too.

I am a woman, and will use women's spaces.

I literally have though, do you know what HRT actually does to trans people?

Yes.

I don't care about masculinity or femininity. I'm not a man, and can't use the mens. It's not a space women should be in.

But you’re not a woman. If you were a woman you wouldn’t be a transwoman. The only criteria to be a transwoman is to be born male. Therefore as humans can’t change sex, you’ll need to use either the male facilities or unisex. You can’t use the women’s. You’re not a woman.

I don't care about masculinity or femininity. I'm not a man, and can't use the mens. It's not a space women should be in.

I am not a biological woman, and I am not a biological man. I am a transsexual woman, which is not the same as a biological woman, but is still a Woman. That is how I am accepted in society. I know that, from my every day life.

I'm a woman, so I'll use the women's actually.

You're a man. Use the men's or unisex toilets

Sorry, but women standing up for themselves and fighting against discrimination is not "male entitlement". It only further proves to me that GC ideology reeks of misogyny.

I intent to use women's toilets, because I'm a woman and sometimes I need the loo

I had to google 'mens rea' and because I accidentally put S at the end of 'rea', the first thing that came up was... men's restrooms😁In fairness to Google, it was actually Bing that I used, Google is more discerning..

I think the issue of intent to cause harassment, alarm or distress has been amply signalled by the likes of AYoungTransWoman who acknowledges they are not a biological female, but fully intend to continue to use women's toilets, despite being fully aware of the alarm and distress that a non-biologically-female person in a biological-women-only space can cause.

There are also plenty of TRA statements about deliberately 'invading' women's toilets in what is clearly a provocative, politically-motivated act in defiance of the clear ruling of the UKSC.

I can't imagine it would be difficult to establish mens rea in view of all these public threats to invade women-only spaces, they've actually written the receipts themselves, and we're keeping all the receipts

I'm very aware that I cannot literally become a biological woman.

Well that's something, AYoungTransWoman.
But you still have a problem with awkward facts:
there is only one kind of woman - a biological woman. If you are not a biological woman, you are a biological man.
Transsexual, transgender - still a man, not a woman.

After all your hormones and surgeries, you'll still be a man. You'll probably still be recognisable as such, because the difference between men's and women's bodies are many, and can't all be altered by hormones and surgery. A lot of transwomen who think they 'pass' don't. They've gone to all that trouble and pain and expense and danger and they'll still be recognised as a man who tries to look like a woman.

I'm not saying people will hate them for it, so please don't bring up hatred again, in fact people may feel a twinge of sympathy for somebody trying so desperately and unsuccessfully to be something they can never be. It's worth repeating that transwomen who believe they have transitioned are often easily identifiable as still being male. All that effort to become a transsexual woman, but still a man, and identifiable as such. It's an unenviable position, and it's a shame that it's being held out to young people as a solution, when it is in fact route to a different set of problems.

Since you are aware that you 'cannot literally become a biological woman', you must be aware that you are not entitled to use single sex facilities that are designated for women - biological women, as the Supreme Court has reminded us - so please don't do it, women's toilets are for biological women, which you know you are not.