European Convention on Human Rights

The key principles of safeguarding are: empowerment, prevention, proportionality, protection, partnership, and accountability. These principles guide actions to ensure the safety and well-being of individuals, particularly vulnerable adults and children.

Here's a breakdown of each principle:

Empowerment:
Individuals should be supported to make their own decisions and informed choices, ensuring they are in control of their lives and have the ability to protect themselves according to the Social Care Institute for Excellence.

Prevention:
It's crucial to take action to prevent harm from occurring in the first place, rather than simply responding to incidents.

Proportionality:
Any intervention or response to a safeguarding concern should be proportionate to the risk and level of harm involved.

Protection:
Safeguarding measures should ensure that individuals at risk of harm receive the necessary support and protection to keep them safe according to the Social Care Institute for Excellence (SCIE).

Partnership:
Effective safeguarding requires collaboration and partnership working between different agencies, organizations, and communities.

Accountability (People-centred approach):
There should be clear lines of responsibility and accountability for safeguarding practice, ensuring transparency and responsiveness.

It is IMPOSSIBLE to safeguard if you have individuals who think it's ok to act stealthly.

It is the very definition of being anti-safeguarding.

It doesn't matter whether the intention is perfectly innocent. The action of concealment being legitimate IS undermining safeguarding principles.

You do not need to be a predator to be violating my legal rights.

You do not need to be a predator to undermine safeguarding principles and therefore by your completely innocent actions inadvertently put others at risk because you have thought you should have the power to blur boundaries.

ANYONE who doesn't understand these two points do not respect women as equals. ANYONE who does not understand the latter enable predators.

It has NOTHING to do with how you identify.

There is a room that's closed. There are eight women and one transwoman in it.

Who is the ONLY person in the room who knows they can be sure they are 100% not at risk from a male?

And therein lies the arrogance and the imbalance of power.

Woman look at all males with suspicion. ALL. Even ones who seem nice. Identity doesn't come into it.

This is how we safeguard ourselves.

Nor, it seems, do transwomen. How do women know the difference? It's too late once they know the intention of the man they have good reason to be wary of. I'm not young any more; I have a much better understanding of what constitutes poor behaviour than I did when I was young. Maybe you will develop more empathy as you age. Blurring women's boundaries is dangerous, and that is something that Queer Theory approves.

Yet again, you reveal more with your words than I think you intend to: women know - it's something that we learn, sometimes to our cost, at an early age - that any man can be an assailant, you don't know until you know..

So any biological male in a women's toilet, whether it's the nice man from down the street, or the local clergyman, or an uncle/grandad/ brother/nephew/son, or indeed you, AYoungTransWoman, has already transgressed by just being there, and that is a red flag.

Getting all defensive by saying 'Are you accusing me of sexual assault..' is a dead giveaway that you do not have the awareness of the possibility of danger that girls and women develop.

I'm saying I don't trust ANYONE who lies and thinks it's ok to stealth. Regardless of how they identify or whether they'd actually do it in practice. How the hell do I know what their true intentions are?

If you think it's ok to enter a female space without the consent of every woman - without undue pressure or coercion - which attempts to emotionally blackmail and force team definitely fall under, then you have broken trust and can't be trusted.

It means anything you say cant be trusted.

We have no way of telling the difference. THAT is the problem.

The moment someone fails to respect a boundary and doesn't think they need consent, that's the moment we don't trust because they've demonstrated it through their actions which they are fully responsible for.

Nice ladies don't say piss.

Exactly, and the presence of any male in a women's toilet is an immediate cause for concern, as he is not following social conventions, he shouldn't be there because he is not a biological woman, and that's a red flag.

Women shouldn't have to guess why a male is in a women-only space, or what his intentions are, he has already shown an intention to transgress both social convention and the law.

"every trans woman who disagrees with me is a predator"

Are you accusing me of sexual assault based on no other information except that I'm trans?

Sexual predators don't follow social conventions.

Says the transwoman who wants to stealth.

Sorry I don't trust you. You are happy to lie.

I mean the man is there to sexually assault / rape someone.

The trans woman is there to piss.

Sometimes you say things that are truer than you think - there actually used to be an invisible barrier at every women's toilet entrance that prevented men from entering. The good men, that is - the good men stayed out so the bad men stood out.
It was called respect.

Are you a new apprentice, brought onto this thread in a work-experience kinda way? 😁

The funny thing is, how do you tell the difference between a transwoman who is decent and a transwoman who is a creep, gets much easier for women.

Clue: the creeps are the ones who talk about stealth and ignore the law by using the ladies. The ones who use a third space are immediately virtue signalling they respect women.

The irony is off the charts.

You think men get to decide what a woman is.

Rather than women themselves.

Because you are that arrogant.

Newsflash.

The answer is no you don't.

Are you purposefully misunderstanding the point?

If TW are allowed to enter womens spaces, any man can. Therefore, why would TW need the space to avoid male violence?

If any man can enter the women space, and vice versa, what is the point of the single sex space?

Errrrrrr

What's the difference between a man who follows a woman in and a transwoman who enters stealthy?

Nothing apart from the sacred cast they think they belong to.

Nice straw man but okayyyy

Yeah cus no man has ever sexually assaulted a woman in a woman's toilet without pretending to be trans have they? There's actually a super secret invisible barrier at every woman's toilet entrance that prevents him from entering until he calls himself a woman.

The problem TRA have if they threaten to go stealth, is that they cannot disclose to anyone that they are trans.

No trans days of visibility, no trans pride, no attention.

It'll be hard for them in more ways than one.

Trans women are just as much at risk of male violence as cis women are. I've been a victim of SA and I fear men just as much as my cus friends do.

So a women is defined by male violence? If a man decides to be violent towards someone, they are women?

You do think a women is defined by what a man thinks?

Well males aka as transwomen aren't going to be any safer in the fucking ladies then are they? Because they are going to be around other males because any male can access the bloody ladies saying "I'm a lady" can't they?!

The logical fail is absolutely fucking astonishing.

No you aren't bloody special. You are just another male. Not female. Anyone admitting to coming in stealthly, should be kept out even more because they show they are male creep who don't respect female boundaries. Not just an ordinary bog standard common old garden variety bloke who stays out the ladies cos they do bloody respect us.

Being vulnerable to male violence isn’t the sole criteria for using female spaces. It’s also about privacy and dignity for women and girls.