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Helleofabore · 06/08/2025 04:35

If I understand it correctly, SG’s barrister is setting up for a high court appearance. Therefore he is covering off as much legal references as he can in preparation.

Sal has been upfront that this will end up in the high court.

FeralWoman · 06/08/2025 04:10

Three to six months for a decision.

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TheSandgroper · 06/08/2025 04:02

Cattywillow · 06/08/2025 03:59

It’s a legal term, not to do with gender. I think it means that even if on the face of it a provision does not discriminate (is facially neutral) it can have discriminatory effect.

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Thank you. I thought it was up there with “biological birth” in expressions that I didn’t knew were a thing.

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FeralWoman · 06/08/2025 04:00

Stiff drink for everyone now that we’re done.

Why didn’t they let it run for the full 4 days scheduled?

I think we can all guess which way the middle judge, Perry, will rule. The male judge is maybe on Sall’s side, and no idea about the left hand side judge. Barely said anything throughout it all.

It will probably easily be two to three months until there’s a decision.

Cattywillow · 06/08/2025 03:59

TheSandgroper · 06/08/2025 03:49

Did I hear right?

A facially neutral condition? WTAF is that?

It’s a legal term, not to do with gender. I think it means that even if on the face of it a provision does not discriminate (is facially neutral) it can have discriminatory effect.

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TheSandgroper · 06/08/2025 03:55

And we are done.

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TheSandgroper · 06/08/2025 03:49

Did I hear right?

A facially neutral condition? WTAF is that?

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FeralWoman · 06/08/2025 03:45

Whatever dickhead is posting screenshots online needs to stop. They’ll pull the livestream, and it’s contempt of court. Big fine or jail time. It’s not an idle threat. It happened last year in the Lehrmann Higgins rape case.

Cattywillow · 06/08/2025 03:39

Photos being shared online. Judge delivered warning.

Cattywillow · 06/08/2025 03:38

Yes he is a bit hard to listen to but I think I there are two things to remember. One, he is largely responding to the others’ submissions so thinking on his feet rather than presenting a prepared argument. Two, he’s very highly qualified and high profile. Was previously the President of the NSW Bar Council. Yes he’s not entertaining but I’d wager the judges are used to his style of argument and respect it.

GwenniMcKinney · 06/08/2025 03:36

Did he represent Sall in the first hearing ?

2021x · 06/08/2025 03:36

I think it is really important that the Judges are very critical of the evidence and language used from Giggles so it can't be demonstrated if there was a ruling in their favour of bias.

The same think happened in the Mushroom case earlier this year. The judge was very testy with the prosecution so it made the conviction as safe as possible.

QuornAgain · 06/08/2025 03:28

TheSandgroper · 06/08/2025 02:58

I’m with the judges. He’s making heavy weather of it.

He's extremely frustrating to listen to. Too many references and too slow to make his point. It's hard to follow the direction of his argument. I wish she had got someone more dynamic to represent her

FeralWoman · 06/08/2025 03:25

The looks on Tickle’s face when the lawyer talks about biological women.

GwenniMcKinney · 06/08/2025 03:02

TheSandgroper · 06/08/2025 02:58

I’m with the judges. He’s making heavy weather of it.

I agree with you, especially when compared to the LAG lawyer

Cattywillow · 06/08/2025 02:59

I’m liking the camera being zoomed in more. 😬

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TheSandgroper · 06/08/2025 02:58

I’m with the judges. He’s making heavy weather of it.

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FeralWoman · 06/08/2025 02:55

Now the middle judge is using designated at birth.

Oh oh! She just used the term protected characteristic! That’s not a term used here. She’s obviously been keeping up with the UK.

GwenniMcKinney · 06/08/2025 02:50

FeralWoman · 06/08/2025 02:41

There’s different types of Irish accent?

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Yes southern accents tend to be a bit softer and less clipped, in fact different counties have different accents eg Cork is a bit drawly with a bit of an uplift at the end of the sentence, Irish people can nearly always tell which county you're from by the accent

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FeralWoman · 06/08/2025 02:47

Huxley did a bit of territory claiming by asking them to wait until he was in place before the middle judge started his 45 mins allowed. Of course she’d told him that he had 45 mins straight away. She said something about there being no trapdoor underneath him that would open up at 45 mins. She seemed annoyed.

Huxley tearing apart things word by word. He’s normally in corporate and constitutional law where I guess that’s the usual way of doing things.

FeralWoman · 06/08/2025 02:41

GwenniMcKinney · 06/08/2025 02:40

I'm hearing Northern Irish

There’s different types of Irish accent?

GwenniMcKinney · 06/08/2025 02:40

I'm hearing Northern Irish

FeralWoman · 06/08/2025 02:40

I was amused by the LAG lawyer saying something about talking about the female elephant in the room, FWS.

Back to Huxley, Sall’s male SC.

FeralWoman · 06/08/2025 02:36

GreenUp · 06/08/2025 02:33

Is EA's barrister Irish? I can't quite place her accent.

Her "sex is a spectrum" argument is typical TRA nonsense.

I heard a touch of American on a few words, and her accent has probably flattened out a bit from being in Australia. Become a bit more like us but clearly Scottish to my ears.

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