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Modern journalism is a joke, isn't it?

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NImumconfused · 04/08/2025 11:51

This article came up on my news feed this morning - I don't think I've seen something so shambolic, it doesn't even make sense! It's a few rambling remarks, "brutal takedown" couldn't be further from the truth.

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/jk-rowling-jinkx-monsoon-trans-harry-potter-b2801311.html

Drag Race legend Jinkx Monsoon delivers brutal takedown of JK Rowling’s pen name

JK Rowling has been hit with immense criticism for her trans views

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/jk-rowling-jinkx-monsoon-trans-harry-potter-b2801311.html

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Toseland · 05/08/2025 08:33

Have you noticed this new trend; Monsoon and Tickle are trying their very best to look like JKR and Sall Grover?!

TempestTost · 05/08/2025 00:44

IrnBruAndDietCoke · 04/08/2025 12:10

The Independent has been a shitrag for some time. It's a far cry from the excellent paper I did some in-depth analysis on at college 20 years ago. It's hard to know where to get decent news these days when the Guardian and Independent are a joke, the Times and Telegraph are behind a paywall, the Evening Standard has gone down the toilet, BBC news online doesn't even run all the stories they put on the radio news and hides anything they can behind "regions" so you only see what you go looking for, and even then they only ever write half a story, and the tabloids are still... tabloids.

Newspapers were never free though, before the internet. Unless you went to the library, which you can still do.

Expecting free news is part of the problem, it means there isn't the cash to pay for real journalism.

That being said, as someone who went to university where there was a journalism school, the vast majority of them were middle class kids from professional families, most didn't want to cover hard news, and they almost all wanted to be activists. In fact the one I knew who did like hard news, and wasn't that interested in activism, is now working for the national broadcaster (not BBC) in a management role.

NeverOneBiscuit · 04/08/2025 19:06

Another failed man in a dress 🥱

hawheresthebmareviewnow · 04/08/2025 18:59

IrnBruAndDietCoke · 04/08/2025 12:10

The Independent has been a shitrag for some time. It's a far cry from the excellent paper I did some in-depth analysis on at college 20 years ago. It's hard to know where to get decent news these days when the Guardian and Independent are a joke, the Times and Telegraph are behind a paywall, the Evening Standard has gone down the toilet, BBC news online doesn't even run all the stories they put on the radio news and hides anything they can behind "regions" so you only see what you go looking for, and even then they only ever write half a story, and the tabloids are still... tabloids.

I pay for news now. If’s it cr*p then there’s no point wasting your life reading it just because it’s free. It’s time you won’t get back.
There’s no analysis or thought to these articles- just click bait.

NewDogOwner · 04/08/2025 18:30

Is it deliberate that this person looks like they trying to copy Rowling's look?

lcakethereforeIam · 04/08/2025 18:28

If Katie Bland isn't female

The court heard that Bland, who participated via video connection from HMP New Hall, possessed prior criminal convictions and was serving under a suspended sentence for a separate robbery when she carried out the offences for which she faced sentencing on Friday.

HMP New Hall is a women's prison. It also holds young offenders, I'm assuming both sexes, but 31 seems a tad old for that category. I hope it's just an unfortunate photograph.

deadpan · 04/08/2025 15:41

I'm sure Rowling will be devastated.

NameChangedOfc · 04/08/2025 14:59

It is indeed a joke. And it's a crime against decent writing. (Not even commenting on the substance).

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 04/08/2025 14:38

I think you can generally deduce the ‘story’ from the photos tbh

Greyskybluesky · 04/08/2025 14:30

OMG! The publishing world is full of 'em!

Chersfrozenface · 04/08/2025 14:26

Charabanc · 04/08/2025 14:07

Wait until they hear about George Eliot.

Or P D James.

Or Ellis Peters.

Dominoodles · 04/08/2025 14:09

And none of them can see the hypocrisy in their statements.

JK used a gender neutral author name because, especially at the time, publishing was a male dominated industry. She essentially had to hide the fact that she was a woman in order to have access to the same opportunities as men.

This is a sign of the misogyny that women face and have always faced. It has nothing to do with 'gender' or 'identity' and everything to do with discrimination on the basis of sex - which is the exact same thing that JK is fighting against to this day!

She's not a hypocrite. She's actually very consistent.

Charabanc · 04/08/2025 14:07

NoBinturongsHereMate · 04/08/2025 14:01

OMG! And M R James sounds a bit like Emma! This has blown the literary world right open.

FFS. It's come to something when the Indy's stories make the Sunday Sport look sensible.

Wait until they hear about George Eliot.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 04/08/2025 14:01

Greyskybluesky · 04/08/2025 12:14

The "brutal takedown" is her use of the initials JK - apparently it sounds like Jake - “That is not a feminine name in the slightest” said this irrelevant bloke

OMG! And M R James sounds a bit like Emma! This has blown the literary world right open.

FFS. It's come to something when the Indy's stories make the Sunday Sport look sensible.

Charabanc · 04/08/2025 13:17

ParvuliThankYouDebbie · 04/08/2025 13:09

The online version of most ‘newspapers’ are appalling, full of content to get the clicks. And, seemingly, most of not written by actual journalists. And Pink News doesn’t seem to understand the meaning of the word eviscerate, based on that headline above. It’s one of the reasons why I still quite like a print version, you can avoid the ridiculous fluff for the most part.

The Independent doesn't have a print version any more. So I don't think it even fits the descriptor of "newspaper", it's just a website. Like BuzzFeed, or Penis Pink News.

ParvuliThankYouDebbie · 04/08/2025 13:09

The online version of most ‘newspapers’ are appalling, full of content to get the clicks. And, seemingly, most of not written by actual journalists. And Pink News doesn’t seem to understand the meaning of the word eviscerate, based on that headline above. It’s one of the reasons why I still quite like a print version, you can avoid the ridiculous fluff for the most part.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 04/08/2025 13:02

@NImumconfused The worst thing is reading all the bad spelling and the horrific grammar in newspapers nowadays!! How some people manage to attain a journalism degree is anyone's guess!!

Rightsraptor · 04/08/2025 12:55

MadameSzyszkoBohusz · 04/08/2025 12:10

Can anyone sum up the “brutal takedown” so I don’t have to give them any more traffic ?

Just a few bitchy, sneering comments.

You haven't missed anything.

Rightsraptor · 04/08/2025 12:52

NImumconfused · 04/08/2025 12:09

You're right, but I'm just disappointed the Independent is such a shadow of its former self these days. Even aside from the flimsiness of the subject matter, that article is utterly incoherent.

We could say that about other publications too (I can't bring myself to call them newspapers), most notably The Guardian, which used to be a brilliant newspaper back in the days of James Cameron, Jill Tweedie, Nancy Banks Smith, Mary Stott et al.

That bit in The Independent is just pointless, inaccurate and bitchy.

Charabanc · 04/08/2025 12:35

ScholesPanda · 04/08/2025 12:28

Clickbait. But you clicked and shared, and we even have a link to the original article, so pretty good journalism from a financial point of view.

For sure. But I do feel it feeds into the "let them speak" aspect. The more people who see this nonsense, the better.

Anyway, as you say, the Independent is mostly just TWAW clickbait these days. Sad times.

Greyskybluesky · 04/08/2025 12:34

ScholesPanda · 04/08/2025 12:28

Clickbait. But you clicked and shared, and we even have a link to the original article, so pretty good journalism from a financial point of view.

So what? People can click if they want, or don't.
Reading from all perspectives is valuable

ScholesPanda · 04/08/2025 12:28

Clickbait. But you clicked and shared, and we even have a link to the original article, so pretty good journalism from a financial point of view.

lcakethereforeIam · 04/08/2025 12:27

The Independent taught me that hyperbole is what passes for journalism on their site. 'Hilarious' will be, at best, faintly amusing. Shit rag nowadays. So many ads crowding the screen it's barely readable and click bait in lieu of interesting articles.