A small change by my local surgery - firmly asking for sex at birth

Yeah, I agree with this. In the current/recent context of trans madness the OP's GP surgery using this wording is a victory, I don't deny that, but ideally 'at birth' wouldn't be used, as it's redundant.

Was the new form asking for gender in addition to sex, or instead of?

This story is often quoted in GC circles but - in common with a lot of other information commonly shared in GC spaces - it has been misrepresented and the reality is more complex.

The patient’s medical records did state “M” however the patient told medical staff on arrival at the hospital that he was transgender, and that he had taken a home pregnancy test which was positive. He was also given another pregnancy test at the hospital. There was never any point where his care team thought he was a cis man.

However, because the patient was obese, his abdominal pain was assumed to be related to this rather than to his pregnancy. This lead to a delay in recognising the baby was in distress and resulted in the baby dying.

To be honest, the story says a great deal more about how medical professionals treat fat people rather than trans people.

Source: https://metro.co.uk/2019/05/20/pregnant-transgender-mans-baby-died-because-nurse-didnt-realize-he-was-in-labor-9613972/

'At birth'. As if it later changes 🙄

My GP surgery has a screen you have to press when you arrive for an appointment. You can press either male or female. The forms for joining the surgery give you 2 options - male and female. There's no mention of transgender, but there are a lot of options for race and ethnicity. As far as I know the practice have stuck with reality throughout the trans craze, and they're in Scotland, so they earn extra brownie points.

At least she is not claiming her experience is 'literal genocide'.... Talk about victims!

Or the transwoman with bone pain due to metastatic prostate cancer because you wouldn't do a PSA in a woman.

It is, but people with DSDs are still one sex or the other and a sex would have been recorded at birth.

The addition of “At birth” is indeed ludicrous and one day, it will be dropped. I guess it’s a stepping stone though from “assigned at birth” so can only be a good thing as the word assigned is an active lie, whereas “at birth” is merely redundant.

Identity is irrelevant where health and medicine are concerned. What matters is sex, as the International Olympic Committee has today confirmed in restricting female sport to those born female.

It requires quite remarkable stupidity not to realise that sex, not gender, is what matters in medicine.

"Sex at birth" would still be a ludicrous category in any sane society. I would be strongly tempted to write "same as now". As it is for everyone!

I'm sure the post making a cringey joke about "pronouns" will be deleted, but I was amused to see they were so desperate to make up something to mock that they were the only person in the thread to even mention pronouns

OP was the recent gender question in addition to asking bio sex, or instead of?

I recently had to do some urine samples for my GP and the stickers they printed off said Gender: F but the form with all the details of what needed to be tested said Sex: F.
I crossed out Gender and wrote Sex and my sample mysteriously got lost. Did the same second time around and there were no problems. Was it coincidence that there was a rainbow lanyard wearer on reception when I dropped everything off?

I imagine it's because patients have been providing incorrect biological information based on their own fantasies rather than actual facts.

It is essential to know a patient’s sex to be able to treat them safely. Or have we all forgotten the transman whose baby died because no one thought of pregnancy?

you are such a victim omg


poor baby im so sorry you had to deal with pronouns and identity. that must be sooo hard for you. such a delicate person, idk how you could survive that

According to an article from May this year, the authorities were still trying to work out what to do with Sven/Marla-Svenja Liebich, who had lost his/her appeal and had to go to prison. But which one?

There are two other 'gender markers' in the UK: U and I, but neither are 'advised' by PCSE. They still haven't fixed the gender v sex marker issue, but I note that you can now change your gender marker without getting new NHS number. This is an improvement in that old notes are less likely to be redacted or lost or difficult to interrogate (including safeguarding stuff) but it is still very far from ideal.

But it sounds like some sense is returning on an ad hoc basis - and surgeries are growing the gonads to publicly use that sense - which is great.

I was asked by an online pharmacy form in a similar wording. I also noted it seems much less apologetic than these things used to.

They often don't believe it. This might have changed since one of the far right politicians (I'd need to google his name) changed his sex when going to prison, that attracted a lot of attention and might have made some people realize the reality of the law change. I'm back in D later in the year I see if people are more aware.