We must arm ourselves, say trans activists

That's not erasure. Women are very aware that there are countless women signed up to trans ideology. The Fife tribunal shows some of them in their toxic glory.

The reason for so many girls and young women being present is that the powerful men leading this movement have deliberately targeted the young - with girls being very vulnerable to social contagion. They are the victims of this and I've no doubt they were there in their thousands.

There's so much compassion for them on here and the shameful treatment of them by so many trusted adults who should have been safeguarding them. But until they're able to remove themselves from the toxic organisations promoting sex change as a positive for the young, we can only stand by and watch.

The violence snd violent threats come mainly from males. If female TRAs are also making threats of violence, then we will also condemn that. We're not ignoring the violent women, we just haven't seen any evidence that they exist in similar numbers to violent males.

the destranitioned man who posted the study said on Twitter that his own anecdotal experience was very much as described.

What a mistake it was to declassify being trans as a mental health disorder.

Transcels are going to transcel.

We've said for many years about what happens next.

The worst thing you can say to an abusive man is "no". An abusive man's response to "no" is to escalate. The most dangerous time for an abused woman is when she tries to leave the abusive relationship.

There are also social issues when cults collapse which can manifest as abuse and violence.

As such the thought process of many here has always been that when this ideology imploded - as it was always doom to because it's authoritarianism based on lies which are only sustainable to a point - that there was a likelihood of it becoming messy and significant risk to women.

The behaviour we have seen from some quarters matches the government descriptions of extremism. I suspect that at some point we will see some steps to deal with problems in line with some of the militant pro Palestinian groups and pro Green groups because a small minority of transactivists will cross a line. In addition to that I think we will see an uptick in numerous actions taken out against individuals for threats and harassment if not worse.

It's really depressing and will not help the interests of those who ultimately end up detransitioning.

They are already armed with penis'. What is a more dangerous weapon than that?!

Men really are the worst.

trouble is, coming to this battle of wits they need to arm themselves with sharp minds, stamina, wide reading, lived experience, mental toughness, honesty, and a sense of humour.

Some of which they seem deficient in, and some, notably honesty, which can't be used by them.

The erasure is in the constant pretence here that trans protests are all about biologically male people.

Utter nonsense of course - ignoring the tens of thousands of biologically female people at the protest.

Maybe they perceive silence as erasure. They don’t want to quietly go about their business using third space rest rooms and taking part in third space sports. It’s the need for validation and more importantly attention that’s the key aim and if that can’t happen peacefully it can definitely happen aggressively.

This.

As is traditional, I thought I'd reclaim the insult in a MN username. But it's actually disallowed by MN.

On the subject of how seriously to take the threats - I'll just note once again that 'vulnerable' does not equate to harmless.

Many of these people are evidently extremists, delusional, and absolutely raging that women won't do as they're told. They have threatened, attacked, and terrorised women in the past. Yes, they should be taken seriously.

But hold on! I’d @PlanetJanette saying non those binary people are female ans so are transmen!? How transphobic!! Tut tut

https://www.instagram.com/p/DKzncl6tlsU/

IIRC he also planned to rape his 13 year old sister but his mum woke up before he had the chance to.

Oddly, PJ seems to be grouping '...women, transmen and non binary' together as a group of biological females.

If only we had a word for them...

DARVO

Their tactic hasn't worked on us, so they're accusing us of applying it to them.

Anyone have a receipt for Shon Faye's sweet address to women? Shon who so desperately wants to be a woman, but the only way he can do that is to erase women because he can never actually be one.

No one who is correctly sexed is erased and they don't need a weapon as correctly seeing someone's sex isn't an attack.
Conversely, lying to someone about their sex is a lie and is harmful as it doesn't help them to get a grip on reality.

I’ll get my coat lol

😂

Didn’t they split up and the lead singer went solo?

Erasure? Gosh, what happened? Did they all just disappear in a puff of smoke?

Why do they need weapons and what weapons are they referring to?

Amen to that.

Because for many Trans Rights Activists (if you ask me, Trans Wrongs Activists, acronym TWATS) it has always just been an excuse to bully, belittle and abuse women.

Yes men really dislike it when women say no. Anger can be the reaction. Some women also think their anger is ok.