Katy Montgomerie

I think you should tell that to the many nonconforming cis women who have reported how miserable it has been to use single sex facilities since the SC ruling gave every bigot in the country a green light to go out transvestigating to their heart's content

"I feel no threat from any trans person that might be in the toilets. I’ve never felt threatened by a trans person as it turns out.

The 69,958 thousand rapes that were reported between October 2023 and September 24 in the UK do slightly concern me, though.

91% of pеople prosecuted for sеxual offenses are cis men aged 18 plus. The biggest threat to cis women sadly comes from cis men.

Women are facing serious dangers not during boxing matches or from trans people needing a piss, but from actual violence that is carried out against them every week.

According to End Violence Against Women, every three days a woman is killed by a man
More than 100,000 girls are at risk and living with the consequences of FGM, forced marriage and honour based abuse

Kathryn Bromwich from the Guardian States that Trans people make up roughly 0.5% of the UK population and are twice as likely to be victims of crime than cis people
According to Home Office figures, this country has seen an increase in hate crimes towards trans people and cis women are supposed to focus on a threat we have yet to see manifest from a small minority of the country who are struggling to stay safe themselves."

-Kate Nash, GERM

"I feel no threat from any trans person that might be in the toilets. I’ve never felt threatened by a trans person as it turns out.

The 69,958 thousand rapes that were reported between October 2023 and September 24 in the UK do slightly concern me, though.

91% of pеople prosecuted for sеxual offenses are cis men aged 18 plus. The biggest threat to cis women sadly comes from cis men.

Women are facing serious dangers not during boxing matches or from trans people needing a piss, but from actual violence that is carried out against them every week.

According to End Violence Against Women, every three days a woman is killed by a man
More than 100,000 girls are at risk and living with the consequences of FGM, forced marriage and honour based abuse

Kathryn Bromwich from the Guardian States that Trans people make up roughly 0.5% of the UK population and are twice as likely to be victims of crime than cis people
According to Home Office figures, this country has seen an increase in hate crimes towards trans people and cis women are supposed to focus on a threat we have yet to see manifest from a small minority of the country who are struggling to stay safe themselves."

-Kate Nash, GERM

I don't support the misgendering of anyone, trans or cis, and think that anyone who actively and maliciously misgenders others on a systematic basis while knowing full well the psychological harm it causes is in a very strange position to be throwing stones.

"I feel no threat from any trans person that might be in the toilets. I’ve never felt threatened by a trans person as it turns out.

The 69,958 thousand rapes that were reported between October 2023 and September 24 in the UK do slightly concern me, though.

91% of pеople prosecuted for sеxual offenses are cis men aged 18 plus. The biggest threat to cis women sadly comes from cis men.

Women are facing serious dangers not during boxing matches or from trans people needing a piss, but from actual violence that is carried out against them every week.

According to End Violence Against Women, every three days a woman is killed by a man
More than 100,000 girls are at risk and living with the consequences of FGM, forced marriage and honour based abuse

Kathryn Bromwich from the Guardian States that Trans people make up roughly 0.5% of the UK population and are twice as likely to be victims of crime than cis people
According to Home Office figures, this country has seen an increase in hate crimes towards trans people and cis women are supposed to focus on a threat we have yet to see manifest from a small minority of the country who are struggling to stay safe themselves."

-Kate Nash, GERM

I think you should tell that to the many nonconforming cis women who have reported how miserable it has been to use single sex facilities since the SC ruling gave every bigot in the country a green light to go out transvestigating to their heart's content

Yet you don't care about the psychological harm it does to women, girls and rape survivors who are gaslit to mis-sex a male, a member of their oppressor sex. That causes far greater psychological harm to actual females than a mantruming male not having a female cosplay in his fetish. We don't care how males feel. You males sure don't give a stuff how us females feel. You won't even answer questions. Which proves you post in bad faith.

I don't support the misgendering of anyone, trans or cis, and think that anyone who actively and maliciously misgenders others on a systematic basis while knowing full well the psychological harm it causes is in a very strange position to be throwing stones.

I don't support the misgendering of anyone, trans or cis, and think that anyone who actively and maliciously misgenders others on a systematic basis while knowing full well the psychological harm it causes is in a very strange position to be throwing stones.

Women don't care if they get misgendered, Butterfly.

It's one of those things that literally only hurts because it's true.

I don't support the misgendering of anyone, trans or cis, and think that anyone who actively and maliciously misgenders others on a systematic basis while knowing full well the psychological harm it causes is in a very strange position to be throwing stones.

Does she ? Or does she also correctly identify a male person by observing their male body cues?

Your deflection has been noted though. You fully support a male person who perpetuates misogyny as a sick gotcha.

We should warn J K Rowling that it's misogynistic to police and nitpick other women's appearance immediately!

We should warn J K Rowling that it's misogynistic to police and nitpick other women's appearance immediately!

We should warn J K Rowling that it's misogynistic to police and nitpick other women's appearance immediately!

oh.... so you support the male people who use pictures of JK Rowling as this 'cheap shot'? Good to know, that you fully support misogyny. Isn't that ... bigoted....

I think anyone reading this and then reading about your comment about supporting women will understand that there is a direct contradiction in your words and just what you support.

It is not a surprise.

"'We can always tell' does seem to have fallen out of favour as an argument this year."

Is that because you have stopped posting in as many places? Because no, it has not fallen out of favour at all. Maybe you just stopped participating in those discussions.

Just a reminder, with filters and poses some male people might be able to convince others that they are female in images and video. However, in real life with observation, seeing movement and maybe interaction, it is highly likely that female people can tell accurately which people are male people. That doesn't change regardless of how many male people may not have that level of accuracy.

I wasn't aware that gender critical feminism was quite so dedicated toward policing other people's appearance and presentation and then having a tantrum when they reciprocate using your own tactics against you, but it definitely seems to be praxis for you.

Has there been another schism? If there's a new group chat, I haven't seen the contents of it yet so I'm a few weeks out of date.

I think I prefer the versions of feminism that revolve around mutual support and campaigning to end prejudice and abuse for all women, rather than perpetuating it. I don't think you're likely to find much of that on Kiwi Farms or similar sites though.

In response to @waitwhat23 who seems to have since deleted an unpleasant personal attack and asked me if I am a KF user:

I think I'd rather slowly gnaw my own arm off.

OP asked what Kiwi Farms was, so I told them.

I remain disappointed, though sadly not all that surprised, to see even a single poster on this board recommending the suicide-baiting eugenicist harassment nexus to others - and even doubling down to defend it, despite it still being banned by the UK for being so actively dangerous.

I think it's a bit of a low-effort cheap shot to trick bigots into humiliating themselves in their clamour to abuse trans people tbh - they're more than capable of doing it themselves without prompting.

Didn't Glinner run some deranged conspiracy theory about Sugar secretly being a cis woman? I think there was a thread about it a few months ago.

'We can always tell' does seem to have fallen out of favour as an argument this year.

I think it's a bit of a low-effort cheap shot to trick bigots into humiliating themselves in their clamour to abuse trans people tbh - they're more than capable of doing it themselves without prompting.

Didn't Glinner run some deranged conspiracy theory about Sugar secretly being a cis woman? I think there was a thread about it a few months ago.

'We can always tell' does seem to have fallen out of favour as an argument this year.

Oh... so you think that someone posting a picture of JK Rowling when someone talks about being able to correct sex someone is a clever gotcha, do you?

Really?

I think you will find that only misogynists do that. There is no clever reason to do it.

But of course, you have jumped to the conclusion that we are policing how people look. Again, that is projection of misogyny there.

No, we point out that the people who declare that they 'pass' have male body cues that are very clearly identifiable which is why male people should never have been told by any person that they should feel free to use the female toilets.

No one is 'policing' their appearance. They are policing male people accessing female single sex spaces. You have been told this on MN for years now, but maybe you forgot in your rush to defend a misogynist who uses women as some kind of sick gotcha.

Pointing out that a male person has male body cues that are easily identifiable is just pointing out reality that a person is a male person.

Why should any feminist support a male person to access female single sex spaces? Whether it is based on 'passing' or not? I think you have again shown just how misogynistic activism that prioritising male people accessing female single sex spaces really is.

Well done.

We don't police "appearance" or "presentation". Just male skeletal systems. Nothing at all to do with 'appearance' or 'presentation'. I also note you didn't answer who on here recommended KF. You don't seem to like answering questions.

I wasn't aware that gender critical feminism was quite so dedicated toward policing other people's appearance and presentation and then having a tantrum when they reciprocate using your own tactics against you, but it definitely seems to be praxis for you.

Has there been another schism? If there's a new group chat, I haven't seen the contents of it yet so I'm a few weeks out of date.

I think I prefer the versions of feminism that revolve around mutual support and campaigning to end prejudice and abuse for all women, rather than perpetuating it. I don't think you're likely to find much of that on Kiwi Farms or similar sites though.

I wasn't aware that gender critical feminism was quite so dedicated toward policing other people's appearance and presentation and then having a tantrum when they reciprocate using your own tactics against you, but it definitely seems to be praxis for you.

Has there been another schism? If there's a new group chat, I haven't seen the contents of it yet so I'm a few weeks out of date.

I think I prefer the versions of feminism that revolve around mutual support and campaigning to end prejudice and abuse for all women, rather than perpetuating it. I don't think you're likely to find much of that on Kiwi Farms or similar sites though.

I wasn't aware that gender critical feminism was quite so dedicated toward policing other people's appearance and presentation and then having a tantrum when they reciprocate using your own tactics against you, but it definitely seems to be praxis for you.

Has there been another schism? If there's a new group chat, I haven't seen the contents of it yet so I'm a few weeks out of date.

I think I prefer the versions of feminism that revolve around mutual support and campaigning to end prejudice and abuse for all women, rather than perpetuating it. I don't think you're likely to find much of that on Kiwi Farms or similar sites though.