Katy Montgomerie

Colin 'Katy' Montgomery has spent a fortune and decades attempting to manage his mental health issues by transforming his outward expression into someone that passes as female. And it hasn't worked. When on twitter he would sometimes post about being 'clocked'. Blame women and call for sympathy - all quickly deleted. He has had much of his social media activity cleaned by the platforms so no one can trace back. Even the wayback machine has cleaned his digital past.

I can't share any insight as he is a self created figment. A sad figure without history and likely a shortened future. It's a life dedicated to a long con.

The only extremist ideology here is one that expects people to deny the reality of their sex; open the doors and give access to anyone who demands it; depends for its survival on people going along with a falsity...pretending they cannot see what it is they see.......and which talks in hyperbolic terms about 'genocide' when it doesn't get its own way.

Why is BH claiming that this entire thread is about someone's appearance?

Such an odd thing to lie about.

I suspect they are some MAGA type dedicated to making trans people look dishonest and hateful. I won't fall for it, though!

Poor Katy - she has an entire thread here dedicated to going over her appearance with a pair of phrenologist's calipers looking for outward manifestations of Sin while denigrating and dismissing her for standing up to oppose the rising tide of extremist ideology in this country. I can only imagine what the KF counterparts are like.

So you found one. And your point is what? Would you like me to list all the lone male sex offenders? How long have you got?

butterfly

You are welcome to believe as many anti-women conspiracy theories and fantastical stories as you wish, so long as you do not harm others.

I and many others can ask you to treat women with dignity and respect - it's up to you whether you do it, though.

And yet Nicola Murray still exists

No, this is what they mean

If people have an issue with what you call 'transness' it is that the very concept, by its nature, violates the boundaries of other people; other groups, and the very nature of earthly reality. Why might you expect people to prioritise this concept ( adopted by some) above their own lived realities. 'Transness' demands to be centred at all times......or at least the version pushed by you and many others does.

That's still vague as anything. Do they mean actual killing and torturing en masse? If so, why not say it? If not, why not say what they do mean?

"have the potential to radicalize and/or bring together destructive historical trajectories and move a society further towards a mass atrocity event aimed at destroying one or more collective identities."

I genuinely think that a lot of this 'debate' could be put to bed if people started using language honestly and actually cared about communicating what it is they actually believe.

“The Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention and Human Security would like to bring attention to and condemn recent judicial and governmental developments in the United Kingdom, which attempt to harm transgender and intersex people in the UK by stripping them of privacy and segregating them as ‘others.’ The Lemkin Institute believes these moves are part of a broader process of erasure. It is not only government action but also the media narrative that has fuelled hostility to and debate about the humanity of trans and intersex people while ignoring their voices. We see evidence of genocidal intent and actions targeting these communities.”

So indeed the political leveraging of people with DSDs is clear here.

However, again any organisation that views the balancing of human rights as “stripping them of privacy and segregating them as ‘others.’” is one that is not proportionate in its analysis. It is indeed ideological.

But I can see some people need to grab hold of anything they can to justify their misogyny.

All human beings have essential dignity in their humanity, but one still cannot change sex, and people who adopt trans identities remain either male or female. By trying to impose the idea that men can actually be women you strip actual women of essential dignity in their sex. Trying to reconceptualise being female into a matter of personal choice, feelings or identity is not very respectful at all.

Airy fairy platitudes about 'kindness' etc disguise inherent disrespect and total lack of consideration for the everyday reality of the female sex.

Certainly most women (actual women) who appear in the news as guilty of sexual offences are acting in collusion with one or more men. You almost never see lone women guilty of sexual offences, with most examples I think being teachers or other women in positions of authority having sexual relations with underage teenagers (I'm not saying this is OK, just that this seems to be the most common offence from this group).

Some discussion here https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/preventing-sexual-violence/women-who-commit-sexual-offences-improving-assessment-to-prevent-recidivism/124BC8852399E668E04635BFC92CF912 - "Our understanding of what motivates women to sexually offend has improved over recent years (Gannon and Cortoni, 2010). Motivations include, for example, the need for intimacy and the need to satisfy or support male co-offenders (Harris, 2010). The latter highlights the potentially misleading nature of statistics, as co-offending with a male partner is common (Wijkman et al, 2011)."

Surely the only people committing trans genocide are the ones sterilising gender non conforming children.

They ALWAYS drag DSDs into it. They have nothing else to prop their batshit agenda up on - even though it doesn't help it at all 🤡

Here's the link to the 'genocide' warning BH is referring to. 🫠

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Lol, this is what the LI have said about the 'genocide' the UK is commiting - 'ninth stage of genocide: Denial of identity'

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NO ONE CARES ABOUT HOW ANY MAN IDENTIFIES. They're still male, and need to stay out of female spaces, that's all. Its not difficult. Chill out.

Butterfly, are you able to say exactly what it is you mean when you use the word "genocide"?

If you don't know, or if you think it's about hurt feelings, please feel free not to answer or pretend I've asked something else.

It's a conspiracy theory that men can't become women 😭

JFC.

Killing 6m Jews is genocide. Keeping sex based spaces just that, for the safety of women and girls at the expense of mentally ill men and predators accessing those spaces under the guise of trans is not. Transfolk are the safest demographic in the UK. Its women being killed at the rate of 2 a week. By men. Bore off with your pearl clutching. Won't somebody think of the poor menz 😱😱😱🙄

The problem with the "sex is complicated" argument is not the facts, which I generally concede. I actually have no problem at all.

You know who actually has a problem?

Men like Katie Montgomery or Beth Upton who I will bet one hundred British pounds are completely 100% physically sexually genetically karyotypically phenotypically MALE. (and straight)

It is a bit Alanis, that if they ever follow this thread to its conclusion and create a system of tests for Biophysical Transness Diagnostic Criteria, it's going to chug away for three minutes and come back with

BONG! 100% MALE! BONG!

Then what? The whole thing rests on creating strategic doubt about their biological sex, when they know that we know that they know, they are just basic males with special gender identity.