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Eliot Page; a positive example of masculinity?

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juoist · 21/07/2025 16:04

I shared this news story in a group whatsapp and my year 8 daughter just told me that the same thing happened in her assembly recently.

I mean, this is batshit insanity and totally goes against what the Cass review states.

It’s out and out grooming. Clearly Page is an example of something other than positivity, whenever I see them being interviewed , they seem deeply depressed and miserable.

Are any of the boys in her school going to see Page as a man? Are any of the girls going to see it and wonder if their clothes choices and hairstyle mean they’re also a man? Why are schools still pumping out this unhealthy rhetoric for young teens? It’s insane.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14924669/Primary-school-trans-actor-Elliot-Page-lesson-masculinity.html

School uses trans actor Elliot Page as positive example of masculinity

The actor, who now identifies as a man after medically transitioning with cross-sex hormones and surgery, featured in a lesson about how masculinity can take multiple forms.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14924669/Primary-school-trans-actor-Elliot-Page-lesson-masculinity.html

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lcakethereforeIam · 02/07/2026 16:47

CurlewKate · 02/07/2026 13:36

Boy George is most definitely not a good role model for boys!

He's stuck up for Jewish people recently.

It hurts to say this but Codger George isn't 100% a bad person. Perhaps 95% tops. I agree he should be nobody's idea of a good role model.

Toseland · 02/07/2026 16:45

Who is paying this person to promote all this crap? How is it being shown to boys in British schools?!

Portakalkedi · 02/07/2026 15:23

The description is wrong as this person is surely a biological female. Not sure there's much else to say.

JohnsShirt · 02/07/2026 15:12

Oh lord, so much mutilation.

Chersfrozenface · 02/07/2026 14:53

JohnsShirt · 02/07/2026 14:42

She looks like she's had those weird abs implant things.

Maybe she has. She has had a double mastectomy, after all.

And she has posted photos of scars on her forearm claiming they are from wearing leather armguards for a film, but the location (inner forearm) and size are exactly those of a radial forearm free flap procedure used for phalloplasty.

(I know people who do reenactment and LARP, and bracers don't cause damage like that.)

JohnsShirt · 02/07/2026 14:42

She looks like she's had those weird abs implant things.

ByTheRiverside · 02/07/2026 14:33

Lalgarh · 02/07/2026 11:23

I wonder if she will ever realise that you don't have to be a man to do any of these things. She's only proving the point of feminism which is that women are also able to do all the same things as men. She's doing it by appearing non-conventional, getting ill-advised surgeries, taking dangerous drugs, playing combat sports where men will no doubt cause her injury, and making terrible decisions. But after all, we fought so women like her can do these things! The only thing she's gotten wrong is she's not a man!

ScrollingLeaves · 02/07/2026 14:05

juoist · 21/07/2025 16:04

I shared this news story in a group whatsapp and my year 8 daughter just told me that the same thing happened in her assembly recently.

I mean, this is batshit insanity and totally goes against what the Cass review states.

It’s out and out grooming. Clearly Page is an example of something other than positivity, whenever I see them being interviewed , they seem deeply depressed and miserable.

Are any of the boys in her school going to see Page as a man? Are any of the girls going to see it and wonder if their clothes choices and hairstyle mean they’re also a man? Why are schools still pumping out this unhealthy rhetoric for young teens? It’s insane.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14924669/Primary-school-trans-actor-Elliot-Page-lesson-masculinity.html

There should be a crime of gender gaslighting of children as part of the ‘Conversion’ practices bill. That’s what this is. Proto-conversion.

There are kind, gentle actual males. There are firefighting, black-belt judo type tough guys who are kind and gentle males too. There are gender non conforming males also. All those are real examples.

This was not an example of a man.

CurlewKate · 02/07/2026 13:36

juoist · 21/07/2025 17:01

I agree. Men can wear pearls,makeup, pink and still be, shock horror,
men!
This is something Boy George used to know.

Boy George is most definitely not a good role model for boys!

BundleBoogie · 02/07/2026 13:29

Lalgarh · 02/07/2026 11:23

She’s going to find it tough to find other tiny boxers if she gets competitive.

Still doesn’t look well or happy.

Chersfrozenface · 02/07/2026 12:47

I can't see that much difference between Elliot Page's musculature and that of Jade Jones, multiple medal winner in taekwondo.

Any difference will be no doubt due to the fact that Elliot Page takes testosterone. Which Jade Jones, as an athlete taking part in competitions, wouldn't have done.

Eliot Page; a positive example of masculinity?
Rallentanda · 30/07/2025 15:42

I feel like I have quite a few non-toxic yet masculine men in my circle, can't really think of a famous one without feeling that you only see one side to them (which is fair enough).

Rallentanda · 30/07/2025 15:38

LesbianNana · 24/07/2025 11:34

Harry Styles? He recently had a very public affair with a married woman, which subsequently broke up their marriage. (Olivia Wilde and Jason Sudeikis.) He flys through relationships. Are they teaching them that committed relationships are to be shunned?

Eliot Page does not seem stable at all and is not a man!

Maybe I’m old-fashioned, but they couldn’t find a firefighter who is a family man and volunteers at an animal shelter? Young boys are just not going to relate to two rich movie stars, especially Eliot Page and Harry Styles.

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A) She wasn't married and b) they were no longer together - unless you believe everything that Ted Lasso says.
Sorry, I had to listen to my friend going on about this at the time, she was outraged at the coverage 😂

BackToLurk · 24/07/2025 12:26

The school appears to have no male teachers, and only a couple of male support staff. I wonder if the head teacher has thought of addressing that.

juoist · 24/07/2025 11:59

SionnachRuadh · 24/07/2025 11:43

If you wanted an example of a famous person who's an unconventional example of masculinity, you could do worse than Steve Buscemi. Before he was an actor he was a firefighter. He was filming in NYC on 9/11, dropped everything and went to his old station to help out with the rescue effort. And he's so modest that story didn't come out until years later.

totally agree, love him!

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LesbianNana · 24/07/2025 11:51

I just read a comment about this that said ‘Are they trying to force 12 year olds into the arms of Andrew Tate?’ It’s true! They need to stop trying to force this down children’s throats and give them realistic goals to achieve.

May913 · 24/07/2025 11:48

At last something women are better than men at! 🙄

SionnachRuadh · 24/07/2025 11:43

If you wanted an example of a famous person who's an unconventional example of masculinity, you could do worse than Steve Buscemi. Before he was an actor he was a firefighter. He was filming in NYC on 9/11, dropped everything and went to his old station to help out with the rescue effort. And he's so modest that story didn't come out until years later.

LesbianNana · 24/07/2025 11:34

Harry Styles? He recently had a very public affair with a married woman, which subsequently broke up their marriage. (Olivia Wilde and Jason Sudeikis.) He flys through relationships. Are they teaching them that committed relationships are to be shunned?

Eliot Page does not seem stable at all and is not a man!

Maybe I’m old-fashioned, but they couldn’t find a firefighter who is a family man and volunteers at an animal shelter? Young boys are just not going to relate to two rich movie stars, especially Eliot Page and Harry Styles.

DuesToTheDirt · 23/07/2025 17:39

Lins77 · 22/07/2025 22:07

My DD in her last year of school was impressed by a police officer (male) who came in to talk to them all, especially boys, about consent and legality etc. She felt it was particularly impactful to the boys because he was quite a "blokey" bloke telling them in no uncertain terms about respect and consent and basically modelling healthy attitudes.

Good. We need role models for boys that boys can relate to. That doesn't include Eliot Page, who is not male!

JeremiahBullfrog · 23/07/2025 11:33

Society could probably benefit from more positive portrayals of short, skinny, soft-faced young men. Unfortunately a short, skinny, soft-faced middle-aged woman doesn't fit the bill.

(Harry Styles doesn't either. He can get away with wearing a dress precisely because he's a conventionally attractive guy with muscles and tattoos, who was already famous before he started getting in touch with his feminine side.)

TheaBrandt1 · 23/07/2025 09:46

Any teen trend is over once earnest teachers endorse it.

GallantKumquat · 23/07/2025 09:41

The solution to toxic masculinity is quite simple - be born and raised a girl, id as a man. Problem solved! Is there any societal ill GI can't solve?

GripGetter · 22/07/2025 23:47

TheCatsTongue · 22/07/2025 08:51

Conversion therapy? As in giving a homosexual individual cross-sex hormones and surgery?

There's a reason why Iran carries out the second highest amount of sex-change surgeries in the world, it may have something to do with homosexuality being illegal.

But Iran is applauded by TRAs are one of the best places in the world.

No, I think Egg means religion-backed conversion courses and trying to pray the gay away. There's a good NF documentary on it called Pray Away.