Flip. I’m in bother then. How did I manage to birth a 10lb 12ish DS and I don’t like any of the 4 things listed??

DS is almost 19 and I’m still shocked at his birth weight. 😳

O wow, this thread is still up!

IW and his flying ( or should I say fluttering) monkeys must be busy elsewhere

Let's see how I, someone born female scores on this.

1. No idea about fashion. I wear clothes that are comfortable.
2. Hate make up, it feels weird (sensory issues because I'm autistic)
3. Never watched Love Island, no interest in reality shows.
4. Hate coffee, it is the devil's drink. Also not keen on going out in the mornings, effort!

Oh no. I'm not a proper woman. I'm so glad India has let me know, and I will tell everyone I know I'm a man immediately. I'm sure my DP will be fine with now being a gay man.

And actually, I think this how most of the spicy straight couples I know actually think. Which is sad. They're now non binary precisely because they don't like these things that woman are supposed to like. Rather than thinking anyone can like or not like anything, it has nothing to do with their sex, just stupid stereotypes. But hey, why challenge stereotypes when you can be special and "queer" rather than a boring normal straight person.

Tell you what India, no woman in history has ever fathered a child. You have, haven’t you? You absolute misogynistic cosplaying bellend.

In all seriousness though if he genuinely believes he is a biological woman now doesn’t this indicate some sort of serious mental health issue?

Am also not wommaning very well - partly because I've never once wondered how many Helen's there are - unlike India

When they classed themselves as men they had a picture of how they wanted women to be, now they want to be that woman. Trouble is it only included clothes/ makeup/frivolities, they never took onboard work/ chores/ responsabilities, just the girly sexy bits

It sounds tiring to have to go out for coffee every morning and drink skinny lattes with almond milk (is that the correct womanly coffee to choose if you are a proper woman? Who decides the rules. IW presumably. We need to check with him) in a camp and over exaggerated way. Presumably we have to tart up first and wear trendy glamour kit. And giggle away with a "girlfriend". Exhausting. No wonder he looks like shit if he has to do that every day.

Man I feel like a Wummin!

This is one of my faves.

Vindictive old queen.

It's a camp version of womanhood. Camp is about performance and over exaggeration.

'Who is more typical, all these women, or me, a man in orangeface and fake nails?'

I've got Lisa Stanfield... I may not be a laydee.... but I'm all woman

I'm sure there are plenty of women who also buy into heavily gendered streoptypes and try to live up to them..especially when it comes to 'beauty' and so on. Some women 'out drag' the drag queens. But take away the accoutrements of 'femininity' they are still female and still experience the same conditions, and vulnerabilities, as other women.

'women are not stereotypes'

I know it's been said a million times before but it's so INFURIATING to have a man define a woman in such inspid and vapid terms and also be COMPLETELY WRONG!! what woman in their right mind would list those four things for.a start???!!!

Does he see us as cartoon characters maybe??

I believe India is confusing Wummin with Laydeeee. I am a Wummin, who dies Wumminly things. I am not a Ladyee

(now I have Tom Jones in my head)

It's a great, well rounded argument isn't it? These 4 things make someone a woman, like me. And then a list of women I don't like because they have the temerity to point out I'm a man.

Not ageing well is he? The next 10 years will be interesting.

Being a woman is clearly a lot more onerous than I realised. But I live miles away from a coffee shop and can't bring myself to watch Love Island. And neither can my mum who also is shit at makeup and wears the same clothes for decades that weren't in fashion when originally bought.

So what happens now? If we aren't women are we men? Do I call my.mum Dad now?

Bloody hell! This just to show that they have no real idea what it is to be us. It’s all a fantasy world of make up, hair, fashion, watching unrealistic tv wanting to be the ideal woman parading around in a skimpy bikini and wearing sexy clothes all the time. Or they think skirt, handbag, nail polish and a cardi - job done I am a woman!

That is me out of womanhood then.

Is that because of his 'cervix', the 'passage to India' as Menno calls it? Love Menno....

I don’t like any of those…so what does this make me?