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A divorcee has been forced by a judge to pay half for her ex-husband’s trans surgery.

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TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 12/07/2025 15:42

I thought I link to this, it's on MSN.

"The mother argued that it was unfair that she had to stump up £80,000 for the procedure when the decision to transition had led to the breakdown of her marriage.
But in what is believed to be the first case of its kind, the judge said that the surgery was a “need”, not a “whim”, and therefore it was “reasonable” for the cost to be met out of their joint funds."

Divorcee forced to pay half of ex-husband’s trans surgery in legal first

"She was “deeply shocked” when her husband “stated that she intended to live her new life as a lesbian woman” and that is when she began divorce proceedings.

The husband responded: “You marry a trans person. You live with a trans person. You benefit from a trans person. They are suicidal and you support them.”

Male privilege write large, and another activist judge, from Brighton, of course.

MSN

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/celebrity/divorcee-forced-to-pay-half-of-ex-husband-s-trans-surgery-in-legal-first/ar-AA1It7sk?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ASTS&cvid=e761ec24e9914ae0853fcec2f215d0cd&ei=21

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Notfinanciallyresponsibleforyou · 12/07/2025 20:05

SewerOrLess · 12/07/2025 19:02

So he's not paying for his children but she's got to pay for his plastic surgery?

Quite. Putting his needs before any children.

FrippEnos · 12/07/2025 20:01

I really want to know what 160K buys you in Trans surgery.

Chariothorses · 12/07/2025 19:54

If you watch the 'Through the looking glass' film on youtube about ordinary families and read accounts from children and wives of transitioners, they commonly describe these fathers stop contributing to food/ clothes for their children as they want beauty treatments and new clothes/ wigs/ breast implants instead.

guinnessguzzler · 12/07/2025 19:46

Absolutely scandalous and how devastating for his wife.

Imagine being such a total dick that even though you're that rich and have shat all over your marriage you still want to quibble over this, meanwhile happily splurging tens of thousands of pounds on tattoos and whatever else.

I've been walking around with holes in my trainers for more than a year because there is always something more important to spend the money on and guess what? It's always something for the kids. Because that's what parents do. Yet this prick can't pay maintenance?!

And this bit: 'The husband responded: “You marry a trans person. You live with a trans person. You benefit from a trans person. They are suicidal and you support them.” ' I highly fucking doubt his wife ever benefited from being with him, she's been stuck with a raging narcissist for decades and, yes, the trans issue has only reared it's ugly head in recent years but I'd bet good money that she dealt with a whole load of other shite from him while he was working up to it.

What an absolute arse wipe. This is abuse, and now it is being supported by the state. And the surgery won't even help, you can't fill the massive hole in the narcissist without a time machine to go back and fix whatever made them that way. So it really is lose lose. Absolutely horrendous.

Rhaidimiddim · 12/07/2025 19:06

Heggettypeg · 12/07/2025 15:54

Can she appeal?
If so, does she know about JKR's court-cases fund, I wonder? Because (unless there are particular circumstances we don't know about), this sounds like a bad precedent that ought to be nipped in the bud.

This. Thank you for saving me having to suggest this. I hope she, or someone who knows her, catches this thread and the fund thinks this is a case-law case worth fighting.

SewerOrLess · 12/07/2025 19:02

So he's not paying for his children but she's got to pay for his plastic surgery?

TinselAngel · 12/07/2025 19:00

I can’t even bring myself to read it. Hopefully there’s enough awareness of trans widows now that you can all fight this one for us.

thenightsky · 12/07/2025 18:29

Taytoface · 12/07/2025 15:49

It's always bloody Brighton!

Wonder if he'd get the same outcome in Scunthorpe.

PriOn1 · 12/07/2025 17:57

Hoardasurass · 12/07/2025 17:32

Yes she can appeal and I would

Jarndyce v. Jarndyce springs to mind.

A friend of mine who’s a solicitor advised me not to go to court against a liar. Sometimes the bad guys win, he said. If she still stands to get a million and they’ve already wasted one million out of a possible three, it might well be time to stop. That said, it is genuinely outrageous. He’s survived this long without it so it obviously isn’t essential. Wonder if this is another judge wearing frilly knickers under his gown. Please tell me it wasn’t a woman that’s done this to another woman.

Driftingawaynow · 12/07/2025 17:45

Been in brighton family court repeatedly as a litigant. I can assure you, the judges are no
more progressive or open minded than in London, I’d argue the opposite

Hoardasurass · 12/07/2025 17:32

Heggettypeg · 12/07/2025 15:54

Can she appeal?
If so, does she know about JKR's court-cases fund, I wonder? Because (unless there are particular circumstances we don't know about), this sounds like a bad precedent that ought to be nipped in the bud.

Yes she can appeal and I would

hattie43 · 12/07/2025 17:32

Omg some of these judges need replacing

ButtSurgery · 12/07/2025 17:31

Jesus fucking christ.

MrTiddlesTheCat · 12/07/2025 17:24

As someone currently being treated for cancer I'd have ripped his fucking head off for this. How dare he equate his selfish demands to what I have absolutely no choice over.

'The husband, 58, had said that the argument was “like saying someone who had cancer should not have the surgery” during the hearing at Brighton Family Court.'

BlueberryFlapjack · 12/07/2025 17:24

Sounds like a classic case of the lawyers rubbing their hands with glee and encouraging a fight. Assets of £3m and they spent £1m on legal fees. It’s a ridiculous ruling, but she would’ve been much better off not fighting this.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 12/07/2025 17:23

Wow! This man claimed "he could not afford to pay the court-ordered maintenance to his wife and children but splashed £14,000 on an Amex card in one month “mainly on clothing, nails, jewellery and restaurants”, got £13,000 worth of tattoos in six months and racked up a £1,000 Milan restaurant bill". And she gets to pay for his essential neo vagina as well. Poor woman.

NotNowFGS · 12/07/2025 17:22

How can we support this woman and her children and who do we complain to? This cannot stand.

WandaSiri · 12/07/2025 17:15

Whether it was incurred before the divorce or not, this expense is not necessary.
IANAL but I thought you couldn't be liable for your spouse's debts?
Grovelling apologies because I can't be arsed to read the article, but is the judge saying that the wife had no say in it, might have opposed it but she's got to pay half anyway? I can't see how that can be right. The money married couples earn is joint money (I'm told) but I can't believe you don't have to agree how it's spent.
Can someone explain the legal reasoning?

Reallybadidea · 12/07/2025 17:15

This makes me so angry, it's an absolute travesty. I would hope this is the sort of thing that JKR's fighting fund would help with if necessary.

Lisanne55 · 12/07/2025 17:15

I'm finding this difficult to understand. Are they in the UK? People don't usually have medical bills/costs so how can it be normal for them to be funded jointly? If it was a need, wouldn't be on the NHS? What did the husband's GP say? Very confusing.

Dumbo12 · 12/07/2025 17:13

If the surgery was genuinely necessary then it would be provided to him for free, on the NHS, neither of them should have to pay, if it is a genuine necessity.

ToClimb · 12/07/2025 17:06

Please god let the wife appeal this abomin3of the law.

MarieDeGournay · 12/07/2025 17:04

This falls into the 'You Couldn't Make It Up' category, and I expected it to be a dubious story from some gossip rag in the US.
Silly me. It was Brighton, and not even Brighton, Michigan🙄

I take the point that whether the expense was incurred before or after the divorce is significant, and might explain the decision, though it would also depend on the diagnosis of gender dysphoria which the judge thinks made it necessary surgery and not a whim.

Late onset gender dysphoria.. very late onset gender dysphoria, at age 58😒

I hope this is revisited - though the law being an ass, there might be no way around it legally, despite appearing obviously unfair to non-legal observers.

Gettingbysomehow · 12/07/2025 17:02

That would piss me right off. I'm thrilled I don't live near Brighton anymore, it was a whole city full of morons like this. The most unpleasant place I've ever lived in.

FateAmenableToChange · 12/07/2025 16:59

Is this surgery a castration? I think some soon to be ex wives might find consolation in that. Interesting precedent to set however, that funding surgery for psychological reasons is a 'need'.