Gregg Wallace: I've bloody heard it all now

Think it's time to share this marvellous tweet again:

Yep and now hiding behind some sort of diagnosis. Arrogant, entitled wanker

Exactly Spider! Poor Greggggg.

I really hope that repulsive piano playing performance will come back to bite him one day but unfortunately he seemed to be celebrated for it rather than condemned.

Don't take my shakey memories as gospel please. I could well be remembering wrong.
I'm sure because of the right guy bit that @BarbieBrightSide got the correct source/story. Research it rather than rely on my memories.

That story is outrageous and unbelievable , and I can't understand how that would be taken seriously.
Stories like this just underline why so many women would not bother reporting rape (let alone other sexual offences) if it's this easy to get off.

Oh 😂😂 I know this is a serious subject and he is a terrible man but this made me laugh and just sums it up.

He was able to control himself when the cameras were on. That basically strips this entire excuse of any credibility whatsoever.

@BarbieBrightSide
I think you found the one I was on about. I remember the guy being rich. Believe it or not I think the guy got off with it. I remember being utterly outraged at the time. I seem to remember the judge being very understanding and saying something like "perfectly understandable", or maybe that's the outrage I felt at the time making stuff up.

I didn’t think my level of ick when it comes to GW could be raised, but I was wrong.

GW commando? Noooooooooooooooo!

I call bullshit.

A year or two ago someone used a penis to play the piano live on air.
Outrageously done on purpose.
Definitely not acceptable.
That's going to come back to bite them.
It is insulting to the past to say it was maybe acceptable.

This isn't any different.
There is no age where an outed socked cock was acceptable.

Embarrassed people giggling means they know they are part of your fetish without their permission. They are trapped in it. That organisations allow nonsense is testament to which majority holds power, the perverts get the upper hand once in a while.
Doesn't mean it was ever acceptable.

And your post reminded me of a case in the UK where a man's defence was similar. I don't remember whether he was eventually cleared, but it wouldn't surprise me if he was

Rape Subject Tripped (Independent 2015)

It reminds me of a former landlord. When I was in my 20s, I lived in a flat at the top of his house with a couple of female students. Every time his wife was away, he would walk around in his pants on the stairwell and try to hug us. He got really angry when I challenged him and said he couldn’t wear clothes because he’d once had cancer and they made him too hot. The stuff these men come out with is utterly despicable.

This speaks to an organisational culture where inappropriate behaviour and or language was/is tolerated and speaking up is viewed as trouble making. Master chef programme was contracted out meaning that BBC systems failed to influence their supply chain and their monitoring or auditing systems were found lacking. As a man I couldn't imagine doing some of the alleged inappropriate behaviour and sexual harrassment regardless of the era.

More than 10 complaints at the time they happened dating back to ye olden days of 2012...so no people women weren't OK with it at the time. Others might have thought there was no point complaining at the time, because nothing would come of it....which is not an unreasonable assumption....given how long it took

Such a farkin insult to anyone autistic to claim autism as his defence for his creepy perversions.
Funny though, that his ‘sensory issues’ don’t include the sweaty, intense heat of a kitchen .. the smells of cooking .. the textures of food that he’s shovelling away.. social communication..as a tv presenter.. oh and it appears effortless to him to look everyone straight in the eyes with no problem …
maybe it’s just me ….. 🤔

I’m autistic and have been answering the door with socks hanging off my bare nipples and a glove shoved up my arse crack.

Is that not the done thing? I can’t believe no one ever told me this.

Thankfully Greggggggg only made his totally innocent social faux pas around women. His is the type of autism that makes him accidentally act like a sexual predator. Weirdly though, only seems to affect autistic men like Greggggg, not autistic women. Poor love.

Hopefully, cases like this will help victims be listened to and not ignored for the sake of the celebrity. Management need to take complaints seriously.

In most of these cases there has been a power imbalance or an acceptance that nothing will happen or just sheer embarrassment.

Years ago I was sexually harassed by a male partner at work, I was a junior and didn’t feel able to complain. My male manager happened to hear about one particular incident after I had been talking to some of my female colleagues. Next thing I knew 2 other male partners came up to my desk (in an open plan office) to ask about this incident and whether I wanted to take it further. I was so embarrassed, I just mumbled it’s okay.These partners didn’t like the other one, so I don’t think they were trying to protect me, rather find a way of getting rid of the other one (and these 2 weren’t exactly squeaky clean either) Hopefully, nowadays HR and preferably female colleague would have dealt with this much more discreetly and follow process.

You're ignoring the power dynamic in many of the cases though. A number of the women have said the were in fear of losing their jobs if they made a fuss, some of them did report it at the time to managers and were brushed off, because "the talent" is always more important than the production staff, many of whom are freelancers with little job security.

So it really isn't a case of people laughing along at the time and only subsequently deciding they were victims, it's the very familiar story of women's concerns about safety and harassment being swept under the carpet because they're inconvenient.

God he is abhorrent.

The rest of us autistics who have sensory issues dish out the extra cash for sensory friendly underwear, not theatrically flash our colleagues.

You say you didn't explicitly blame women, in fairness, you referred to 'people' not women:
It's just rather underhand when people dont confront the person at the time and let them carry on thinking everyone finds it funny and are ok with the 'tone' and then several years later deciding they're a victim.,

It's just that the 'people' in this case who are underhand and belatedly 'decide' they are victims happen to be..women.

So in fairness, you blamed 'people' and not women; but in fairness, Shenmen wasn't conjuring 'victim-blaming' out of nowhere, was she? and in fairness it wasn't an 'extreme accusation', was it? It wasn't name-calling or goady, it reacted to you saying that some 'people' are not genuine victims. That seems fair enough. You may not agree, but that's the way discussions go - viewpoint/alternative viewpoint/discussion of viewpoints..

I wouldn't agree that Shenmen's post is 'extreme', and I don't see how it shuts down balance, so if you decide not to continue this discussion, which is entirely up to you, I don't think it's fair to suggest that it's because of Shenmen's post.

It's up to you whether or not you want to continue, you seemed to have reached the end of your wish to engage, but you can always come back and explain what people you are accusing of belatedly 'deciding they are a victim', if you did not mean the women in the GW case.

Er, hang on a second - if you’ve met 1 autistic person then you’ve met 1 autistic person

However, GW is a wankstain on the moral fibre of the diagnostic process

Nasty, nasty individual. As you were [deep bow]

See, any alternative viewpoint is met with these extreme accusations "victim blamer" .

Why do you do that ? It just shuts down any balance. I've explained exactly my view point in my above post and nowhere in it have I said it's the women's fault for his behaviour.

I'm not going to spend the next 5 pages pretzling myself to prove I don't think women are the problem. I'm not defending what I didn't say.

You can now name call me, make goady accusations to make me reply and all the rest of it . But I'm leaving my opinion up as it is just as valid as yours.