Gregg Wallace: I've bloody heard it all now

He’s playing the autism card to cover his twat tendencies. I’ve worked with him he’s just a sleazebag

Forget the autism get out card he isn’t

I have had the unfortunate experience of being introduced to him In a professional capacity. No he didn’t drop his trousers but he was a thoroughly unlikeable misogynistic twat.

No.

I actually think the Berkowitz/Son of Sam defence would be more credible...

SquishedMallow I thought the same as you at first - probably just inappropriate banter and being a bit of a tit. Especially after that Alan Partridge-esque interview. I actually felt a bit sorry for him.

But do look up some of the allegations against him - some of them are really quite predatory.

He surely can’t sue the bbc successfully for not taking his autism into consideration? Because if he won wouldn’t that mean it’s a green light for any autistic man to sexually harrass female colleagues ? Which obviously wouldn’t happen! And people with autism apart from gregg manage to not behave like this.

I agree with you.

A young researcher was pushed into a sofa, he dropped his pants, sand underwear and thrust himself at her.

She complained at the time to a manager ask was told “you’re an adult, it’s not as if you’ve been Jimmy Savilled”. The person who said that should be sacked and named and shamed and GW should also have been sacked in the spot. But they weren’t and that is why women don’t report!

That was a shitshow of an interview and no mistake. It was basically 'I spend 2 hours on a Saturday with my kid and the rest of it sequestered away in the pub or in the spare room building model soldiers and watching nazi documentaries on uktv Hitler' and thinking that makes him a historian.

The lack of self awareness was baffling.

I think there may be Neurodivergence at play with him, but he is a disgrace of a human being. (See my previous posts; I'm Autistic myself)

However, I'm getting increasingly pissed off at the narrative of "I'm Autistic / I have ADHD (or even) I have a mental health condition, so I cannot be held accountable for my actions" when people try and wriggle out of shockingly inappropriate behaviour.

My Autism does not cause me to behave inappropriately. Being a predatory male arsehole is largely the common denominator in these situations. People who do really bad things tend to make excuses for their behaviour rather than own it. Neurodivergence or mental health conditions seem like the latest get out clause.

Sadly, you see it trotted out in court cases all the time and it muddies the waters massively in the understanding of Neurodivergence.

I hate it. It isn't doing genuine, good, Autistic people who live by the rules of society any favours at all.

Nice victim blaming 🙄🙄

It’s not ’underhand’ at all. A lot of the women Wallace targeted were young and in insecure freelance jobs. They felt uncomfortable, and didn’t want to report in case they were branded a troublemaker or sacked. Can’t you understand that?

Even with older women, if someone behaves like that you might freeze, think you are overreacting, doubt yourself, give him the benefit of the doubt, or not want to cause trouble.

but yes, some people did report him. Some were told they were overreacting, and their claims were not taken seriously. That’s on the BBC.

I suppose he could go for the Son of Sam defence and say his neighbour's dog told him to do it, but autism probably seems more credible.

It really annoys me that as soon as someone gets caught doing despicable deeds such as Wallace, or hackers into various secure Government departments etc. They suddenly get diagnosed with autism.

I often wonder who does the diagnosis.
Is it correct or is it something else?

The interview he did about a typical day in the life of Gregg Wallace and how he treated his wife was revealing (what number wife is she?)

Once again autistism can't be blamed for that and there was a backlash about the comments but he didn't seem to see them when it is pointed out.

As pp pointed out, he WAS talked to and he chose to ignore that. And there were incidents after that.

His attitude since has first been to blame women of a certain age. Then to blame his autism. At no point has he said 'yes I was wrong, I'm sorry'.

Oh, and just to add a couple of things;

I appeared on Masterchef in 2001. I loved the programme and watched it all through the Loyd Grossman era (and the year Gary Rhodes did it which was the year I was on) I have never watched it since he and Torode took over. I can't explain the visceral reaction I got from him.

Also, I have major issues with traditional underwear as I can't stand the seams ampng other things. I do wear cycling shorts underneath my clothes if I have medical appointments or times where I will be required to change my clothing in front of others.

He's so fucking offensive.

No wonder that's come as a shock. After all these years of behaving like this with impunity, the poor darlings mustn't know what's hit them.

(And as ever, the first post has it)!

I absolutely fucking despise this utter waste of space of a man.

As an Autistic woman, funnily enough I don't go around indecently exposing myself then blaming my disability for it. But then, it's never women who do this, is it?

He's a predator. He has absolutely no self awareness and he deploys classic DARVO tactics.

Oh. And it's on you, Gregg, to 'investigate your disability' I think you will find, however, that as well as being Autistic, you are an utter arsehole and that's all on you, mate.

To be honest, having read the full thread now and filled in some gaps, my response above was far too gentle.

What an awful, awful, awful man. And what a long way we still have to go.

I really think most men don't realise what an impact comments and behaviours like these have on us. The fear and humiliation. The way they shape how you feel about your body, your behaviour, your movement. They stay with you, for life.

The impact is immense. Because of the power differential and latent threat.

Because each instance adds up to create an overwhelming cumulative impression of your utter vulnerability to 50% of the people you'll encounter and interact with for the rest of your life - of how they may be seeing you and thinking of you. Of what they may choose to do to you.

Or maybe many do realise, which is a worse thought.

I'm not happy with this post, either - many so-called liberal feminists may resent its presentation of women as vulnerable. But I do think if there was greater appreciation of this, we'd get more of the good guys fighting our cause and taking sexist "banter" more seriously. I mean, who accepts racist banter now? Able-ist banter? There's a recognition of vulnerability there that isn't dismissive or diminishing. It's just become accepted as Wrong.

I can see what you're saying, and think in some instances it's relevant.

But I'd also say you're being a little disingenuous here. "Tittering along" is, frankly, demeaning and judgemental - and it's also overly simplistic.

I've often witnessed women and girls "tittering along" as a "fawn" defence mechanism - or simply because they knew they wouldn't be supported in any other response. I've done it myself for the same reason.

It's as if, over time - very, very slowly - the societal straitjacket that's pressured women to think they're crazy to "make a fuss" about such behaviour is being loosened, allowing us to understand it more fully.

It's not always hypocrisy to perceive things differently over time - rather, you suddenly recognise what you previously could only sense.

And of course some will take advantage, as you say - there's always some who will.

But I think the default here should be to listen to the potential victim. Not a 50:50 "alternative viewpoint", but a respectful readiness to believe.

I know a family who have 3 children (boy,girl,boy)

Both boys are autistic (one is 'very' autistic(hes 17),he will never live independently and the other 'mildly' autistic,with a lot of support,he may be ok to live independently when older (hes 8)-if I've explained that wrongly,I'm sorry,im trying to set the picture without offending anyone)

Both boys wouldn't dream of getting their genitals out and waving them about in front of anyone,they are autistic not sex offenders and even the 8 year old knows it's wrong,even at his young age (in fact he's very coy about his body,bless him)

GregG is what?60+ and doesn't have a clue about how to behave in front of women because he claims to be autistic? (But oddly knows how to behave in front of other men)

I was once sexually assaulted at work,and when the police (finally) pulled their fingers out of their arses (after a lot of me pushing them to do it) and had a word with Mr Sex Offender,the first words out of his mouth where 'I have bipolar,I didn't know it was wrong'

'OK mate,we won't take it further' (case closed) He wasn't bipolar at all-he was another gregG wallace-he knew he was wrong but it was my fault for standing where I was at the time,he 'couldnt' control himself (unlike every other man in the building at the time) and I was to blame for him ramming his hard cock into my back while his hand crawled up my top

Autism is the new bipolar,I said the other day to dp 'give it a few more years and these sex pests will find another excuse'

He can't see he's just a fucking sex pest who needs to grow up and see women as human being rather than sex objects

Not many things make me genuinely lol on here, but this does😂

Was he reported immediately?
One lady that was on the news the other day said when she reported it straight away about him dropping his trousers in front of her they said you are over 16 it's not like you were Jimmy Savilled.

Is this why he seems to speak about his own autistic son with such contempt every time I read an interview?

It did attach it takes a minute now because its. Verified anyway
extra G 😀

(didn't attach)