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Gregg Wallace: I've bloody heard it all now

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SidewaysOtter · 09/07/2025 22:45

https://www.thetimes.com/article/048274a6-0f4d-4840-a6d6-a762f3cd89b4?shareToken=c179de101201f5ff427273be03361fa3

Apparently, in addition to him being the "true victim" in the BBC's investigation (see his statement of yesterday on Instagram where "nothing was done to investigate my disability" or "protect me from...a dangerous environment"), his "friends" now claim that incidents such as him opening doors with a sock on his penis while he shouted "hooray" were due to his autism which, in turn, meant he couldn't wear underwear.

I have no words other than to say I know quite a few autistic people. Not one of them behaves as, or uses autism to excuse being, a sex pest.

Whoever is doing his crisis PR has really pulled out all the stops.

Gregg Wallace’s autism means he can’t wear underwear, say friends

Sources close to ex-MasterChef presenter claim he has ‘hypersensitivity’ to tight clothing and his condition is partly to blame for his inappropriate behaviour

https://www.thetimes.com/article/048274a6-0f4d-4840-a6d6-a762f3cd89b4?shareToken=c179de101201f5ff427273be03361fa3

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RedToothBrush · 15/07/2025 05:38

Fizbosshoes · 14/07/2025 18:05

Is there some sort of excuse guide book, didn't Huw Edwards use not going to Oxford university as some kind of mitigating circumstance...?

It seem there is indeed....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14905743/BBC-John-Torode-resign-blame-mental-health-racism.html

John Torode was asked to resign from MasterChef by the BBC and blame mental health after he was accused of misconduct, it has been claimed.
Gregg Wallace's co-presenter last night said an allegation of using racist language had been upheld against him - but he denied all wrongdoing.

It has now emerged Mr Torode reportedly refused to quit when urged to stand down over the weekend.

A source told The Sun the MasterChef star, 59, was asked by the BBC and production company Banijay to pretend he had mental health issues.

Oh dear. This doesn't end well for the BBC.

BBC told John Torode 'to resign and blame mental health issues'

Gregg Wallace's co-presenter came out last night to admit an allegation of using racist language had been upheld against him - but denied all wrongdoing.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14905743/BBC-John-Torode-resign-blame-mental-health-racism.html

RainbowZebraWarrior · 14/07/2025 20:34

Fizbosshoes · 14/07/2025 18:05

Is there some sort of excuse guide book, didn't Huw Edwards use not going to Oxford university as some kind of mitigating circumstance...?

Yup.

Whereas Autistic working class women who didn't go to Oxford like myself (and many others) still manage to not be creepy pervs.

Some men are just utterly despicable entitled arseholes.

Fizbosshoes · 14/07/2025 18:05

MarieDeGournay · 14/07/2025 17:43

Still blaming autism and the BBC, but also being a working-class man now:

“None of the serious allegations against me were upheld. I challenged the remaining issue of unwanted touching but have had to accept a difference in perception, and I am deeply sorry for any distress caused. It was never intended.”....
“This has been brutal. For a working-class man with a direct manner, modern broadcasting has become a dangerous place. I was the headline this time. But I won’t be the last.”
“There will be more casualties if the BBC continues down this path, where protecting its legacy matters more than protecting people. For my part, with full legal support, I will consider my next move.”

Is there some sort of excuse guide book, didn't Huw Edwards use not going to Oxford university as some kind of mitigating circumstance...?

CompleteGinasaur · 14/07/2025 17:50

I'm a working-class lesbian, but I've never felt the urge to put my hands on another woman without explicit, indeed enthusiastic, consent, or verbally harass her, or indecently expose myself in front of her. (Not even in a Ladies' toilet, despite what a lot of trans activists seem to think..).

MarieDeGournay · 14/07/2025 17:43

Still blaming autism and the BBC, but also being a working-class man now:

“None of the serious allegations against me were upheld. I challenged the remaining issue of unwanted touching but have had to accept a difference in perception, and I am deeply sorry for any distress caused. It was never intended.”....
“This has been brutal. For a working-class man with a direct manner, modern broadcasting has become a dangerous place. I was the headline this time. But I won’t be the last.”
“There will be more casualties if the BBC continues down this path, where protecting its legacy matters more than protecting people. For my part, with full legal support, I will consider my next move.”

SionnachRuadh · 14/07/2025 12:34

The production company behind the show was found to have provided little or no formal training or clear escalation procedures to manage complaints prior to 2016, with incidents often handled informally and on a case-by-case basis.

The BBC was also found to lack any centrally held information at the time.

Hmm. It's one thing for small production companies to have inadequate processes, but they're contracted by the BBC. This would imply that the BBC, well after Savile, was taking an approach of "nothing to do with us guv" if the show was externally produced.

See also the stories that have come out about Doctor Who.

CompleteGinasaur · 14/07/2025 10:52

No doubt the People's Predator will be along any minute to claim that being found guilty in only about half of the cases means he's practically innocent. The thing that annoyed me about the BBC report/investigation was the bit where they went along with his vicious autism "defence" - "the findings should be viewed in the context of his neurodiversity". Some characteristics are clearly more protected than others at good old Auntie Lydia.

MarieDeGournay · 14/07/2025 10:10

Just seen the news - 45 accusations against GW have been upheld = more than half of the accusations.

lechiffre55 · 12/07/2025 13:29

murasaki · 11/07/2025 13:11

Did she use "my struggle" in that article on purpose?

MarieDeGournay · 11/07/2025 18:45

'both of us able to appreciate those simple, natural pleasures – the wind on your face, the hand on your arse..'
Brilliant piece of sustained satire, Marina Hyde😂

Internaut · 11/07/2025 18:15

Interesting that he apparently received formal warnings in both 2018 and 2019 and didn't learn from it. If that was down to his alleged autism, and he didn't bother to have any investigations done or to get any advice, why does he think his employers have done it all for him? He can't claim that his autism deprived him of the power of rational thought, otherwise he couldn't have done the job at all.

KnottyAuty · 11/07/2025 17:41

SionnachRuadh · 11/07/2025 15:36

I don't know if Gregg knows this, but there's a diversity of designs of men's underwear these days. If he would prefer something loose fitting, they have that in the big Asda up the road.

We're not living in the Soviet Union with a People's Central Gusset Department making sure everyone gets their underwear in the same style.

People's Central Gusset Department
LOl - I am missing the laugh reaction!

KnottyAuty · 11/07/2025 17:40

SidewaysOtter · 11/07/2025 12:41

"He was warned but didn't listen"

That might be my epitaph living with 2 ADHD males!

ChompandaGrazia · 11/07/2025 17:29

Rather convenient this diagnosis. I wonder how much that cost.

As for why women didn’t report it, well it’s the imbalance of power. If you are a young researcher just starting out you are not going to have the confidence to tell anyone straight away. I bet he managed to keep his cock inside those nasty pants of his while he was in important meetings with producers or in the company of men.

Fizbosshoes · 11/07/2025 17:10

The usual stance is to say they're very sorry that they had to face any consequences for their actions and sincerely regret any hurt or offence caused, and for that reason they were told to leave are stepping down from <insert position>

I mean it's all scripted bs and probably most men are only sorry they got called out over the behaviour (or their wife left etc) ....but it's seen as the appropriate/borderline acceptable response. Surely some of his pr team (if he has one) have suggested that approach....?

He's said he won't go quietly.....which I suppose shouldn't be a surprise given he doesn't appear to do anything quietly!

Sunshineismyfavourite · 11/07/2025 16:35

Just another example of a fully grown adult refusing to take responsibility for his actions. Laying the blame at the door of his employer, his disability and anything/anyone else he can try to justify, just shows the man that he is. Twat.

2025ismybestyear · 11/07/2025 16:23

SquishedMallow · 09/07/2025 23:37

I don't know the ins and outs of the accusations, I'll be honest.

But I do think there is a culture of hunting down men on TV for behaviour that once was considered 'ok' (over flirtatious behaviour towards females guests/sexist 'banter' for example) and publicly witch-hunting them and judging them by today's standards.

Today, we (thank god ) know better and women are treated far more equal and it's now socially unacceptable to paw at women on TV and treat them like some kind of pretty little dolly that's good for groping and treating like they have an IQ of 30.

But there is balance. I think when behaviour is historic we have to be careful about whether the public frenzy and blood thirstiness strikes the balance over the actual alleged 'crime'.

Tell that to someone who has been assaulted, groped, raped, etc. Just because it was years ago doesn't mean it doesn't still hurt.

2025ismybestyear · 11/07/2025 15:47

Who are these men? The man who abused me as a child said he was under stress with work and a bad marriage. That's all right then. Twat.

I don't know much about autism, but clearly he's taking bollocks, but I'm sorry to all those who are upset and hurt by his comments and attempt at justification.

SionnachRuadh · 11/07/2025 15:36

I don't know if Gregg knows this, but there's a diversity of designs of men's underwear these days. If he would prefer something loose fitting, they have that in the big Asda up the road.

We're not living in the Soviet Union with a People's Central Gusset Department making sure everyone gets their underwear in the same style.

Cattery · 11/07/2025 14:45

Fizbosshoes · 11/07/2025 13:07

I've worked in a male dominated industry for nearly 30 years.Apart from a couple of colleagues who, maybe 10ish years ago, followed that stupid trend of wearing your jeans halfway down your arse, I've no idea (neither do I want or need to know) the underwear status of any of my colleagues! There has definitely been banter and misogyny, but thankfully never any opportunity where someone got their tackle out. It wasn't ok, or in any way normal, in the late 90s, when i started and it isn't ok now.

Imagine what it was like in the 80s but then again, I don’t recall anyone with no underwear 🤔

viques · 11/07/2025 14:32

Well written Marina. Unfortunately GW won’t see it for what it is, to him it will just be another middle class middle aged woman piling *on to him.

*[“I should be so lucky” GW]

SidewaysOtter · 11/07/2025 14:09

Marina Hyde knocks it out of the park again - that is GLORIOUS ❤️

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RainbowZebraWarrior · 11/07/2025 13:54

murasaki · 11/07/2025 13:11

That is fucking brilliant. He will be seething if he reads that. No doubt he will think she's just another middle class - insert misogynistic slur here - who should STFU.

Hopefully he just shuts up and fucks off now.