Gregg Wallace: I've bloody heard it all now

I got to the bean soup and crust of bread. then i turned inside out with the cringe !

I agree with @RainbowZebraWarrior that behind every sleazy BBC "talent" there's an enabling culture of management that sticks its fingers in its ears to reports and protests. And if the protests persist, turns on the protester.

Wallace is the latest in a long line of wrong'uns from Jimmy Savile, to Rolf Harris, John Peel, Martin Bashir, Huw Edwards, Tim Westwood, Russell Brand (egged on by Jonathon Ross) - and they're just ones I can think of off the top of my head.

Other channels are available in this regard, of course. Think Brand (again) and Schofield.

The difference is that the BBC sees itself as a National Treasure whose reputation must be protected at all costs. And usually makes a right ham-fisted job of doing so.

This always reminded me of Alan Partridge, especially the series where he has a younger Eastern European partner, Sonja.

Half expected him to say "She's 14 years younger than me ... Back of the net!!"

I don't think Alan was a sex pest though.

He's lucky he's not up before the beak for indecent exposure.

It reads like quite clever parody of something some random bloke in a pub somewhere was overheard saying.
Well done TheDearOtter, you obviously have an ear for the absurd😄

50% of the population don't want to see them in the workplace though.

Make that 99.7% - the remainder being the abusive perverts who don't know what a fucking zip is for.

Have to say I think them suggesting he leave and blame MH is extremely believable. More believable than his "I don't recall" about the incident.

I think it's possible for him to be a total arsehole who's been there far too long and for him to be shabbily treated by execs doing damage limitation necessitated by Wallace's antics.

But yes, I agree. Give the show a rest, strip it down, reformulate it, relaunch with new people and a new style.

Greg is that you ?

I’m in my 40’s so no longer classed as the ‘younger generation’ but I firmly believe that everyone should be able to go work and be protected from sexual harassment. I also recognise the issues that come with an older, powerful man subjecting younger and/or less powerful women to sexual harassment.
We should be getting men to behave better rather than expecting women to toughen up.

Getting your dick out in public and at WORK is not ‘uncouth’. It’s inappropriate sexual conduct which deserves to get you sacked.

The thing with Torode is, he's just demonstrated utter arrogance by saying he had no recollection of that racist incident (and the whole fallout of apparently being asked to leave and blame his MH)

It's not the kind of thing you forget. You either take the blame and admit it or you say it categorically didn't happen. Except he couldn't could he, because it obviously did happen, hence he was sacked shortly after he 'couldn't recollect'. So that makes him an entitled arrogant arse too. Hardly surprising when you think about the culture and what was 'acceptable'.

Yes I don't like Torode either and never have. I think they are / were both insufferable arseoles who's egos became so inflated after being allowed to dominate a high profile programme for so long. From the off, to me, they were both dislikable and I've no idea how they ever made it as front men, never mind how they reigned for so bloody long.

As I said yesterday, time to completely reformat (as well as foster a new, non toxic, non male enabling culture)

Melanie Jappy was the producer when I did it. She was an ex contestant herself and brilliant at her job. I'd love to see her back!

I was seriously tempted to say "is that you, Gregg?"

I genuinely feel that this was blown out of proportion.
Christ alive, or are the younger generation really that bloody sensitive that they cant handle this sort of thing?
usually i agree with the reactions to this sort of thing. But this? So bloody what, It was a little uncouth, but then so are a lot of men. And i'd still choose any day to work onsite with dick swinging in the breeze - Men are way more straight forward to work with in my experiance - and i've been site based for the last 15 years - Even with the levels of man - behaviour i deal with on a weekly basis I would still choose that, to working in female dominated offices again, when the bitch factor is off the scale, and everyone spends their time silently or not so silently judging everyone else. That environemtn gave me anxiety and depression. Site based - haven't really had any such issues since

That's nice.

50% of the population don't want to see them in the workplace though.

Fine if it's by mutual consent outside work or you are literally handling it for medical reasons.

It's 'just a penis' isn't legally a defense if you are being prosecuted for indecent exposure.

This can't be a serious post...

Not goning to lie, I think that all that crap got blown WAAAYYYYYYY ot of proportion.
I work in a very male dominated industry, sometimes with much crudeness and litteral dick swinging. - and if i let cocks on show bother me, i'd never get anything done.

Is it questionable behaviour on his part yes - is it worth destorying his life and career over? No.

christ alive - its just a penis. 50% of the population have them. It is literally just and appendage, that some people put too much emphasis on.

Also, its kind of hypocritical really when you think about it. We criticize men for getting their dicks out. but no man would ever go running to HR if we got our boobs out?????

I'm not exactly getting my violin out for Torode, but I think he's mostly guilty of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. If it's one reported remark which he says didn't happen, summarily sacking him only makes sense if they're all panicking and saying "oh fuck, we need to show zero tolerance". Or he was already going and they decided to make virtue points out of his departure.

Where it really just points up the contrast with how Wallace was indulged for years despite dozens of women complaining about him. I think it really is a woman problem. Look at the months it took for the BBC to admit there was any controversy surrounding Neil Gaiman, and even then they were very minimalist and foregrounded his denials.

You will rarely if ever find me praising the porn industry, but I think of when the James Deen scandal broke at the end of 2015. Deen wasn't a relic from decades earlier, he was a young man and the hottest male star in the business. But when the rape allegations started coming out, within a couple of weeks his career was over and none of the companies would work with him. We're actually at a point where the fucking American porn industry can seem ethical compared to the BBC.

'I love chatting to the experts, but I’m quite the expert too, having been journalling, manifesting, goal-setting and reading self-help books for years.'

Manifesting? Is that what he calls it?

Wow. 'I have less than 18% body fat and a six pack, but I have a belly that bloats. I guess we all have our imperfections'. Indeed, Gregg.

Only 30 minutes scheduled with his child. Then in the afternoon he spends at least 2 hours playing computer games in his office. Sounds like he had things just how he wanted.

A day in the life of Greg, from the Telegraph. Enjoy.

https://archive.ph/yIHiX

Having heard that Torode has been sacked for a racist remark (not disputing he shouldn’t be) I can’t help but compare years of not just remarks but actions against women from Wallace which didn’t get him sacked vs one racist remark from Torode which did.
Abusing women is much more socially acceptable than racism.
Is this because men can suffer racism too and they are listened to and taken seriously unlike women reporting misogyny and abuse?

Don't forget his marriage to Heidi was not his shortest marriage. His shortest marriage was six weeks.

The one before the current one. The current one parents his youngest whilst he acknowledges the child for an hour a day. She naturally does all the domestic stuff. He only gave her permission to have a child if he didn't have to parent.

The man is a narcissist cock end with no respect for women or the children he makes. He views it as beneath him.

I'm not sure that giving lots of details about his home life is convincing people of what an absolute prince he is.

@Pemba yes, he basically did as he pleased and must be left alone to play on his PlayStation for hours iirc. I think his son was pencilled in for 30 minutes somewhere along the line. I think his latest wife is Italian.

So with the reporting of the new allegations that have been coming forward, I'm noticing a pattern.

Young female staffers. Bearing in mind Masterchef has a huge throughput of contestants, he doesn't appear to have been mainly trying it on with contestants. He appears to have been trying it on with young women who were in the business but in precarious employment.

If you're say 21 and just trying to break into the business, are you going to raise a grievance against the star of the show?

Put together with the huge drop in complaints relating to after he was spoken to in 2018, none of that suggests a man who couldn't control himself.

What it does suggest is an environment where certain men's behaviour is winked at, and at best a woman entering the environment might be quietly warned about him.

I'm wondering what the next shoe to drop at the BBC will be. I doubt if we've heard all the stories about what was happening on Doctor Who.