Anti-gender / Anti-rights orgs pushing money in to the UK to attack women and LGBTQ rights - Amnesty

It's like all of the people who have knowledge, understanding, reasoning and gravitas have left the building and tick-tock progressives have rushed in to fill the space

Ironically, before someone pointed out that motivation not long after they got rid of it, that usage had never occurred to me! Wish it had, though...

I read the OPs post as trans people are full of deranged seething hate! Having been on Reddit I can fully believe it.
^^
I doubt that many here will be interested given that it doesn't involve deranged, seething hate of trans people

I like to step outside the echo chamber and make sure I’m not missing something but crikey the acid bile and vitriol on Reddit is a lot, they’re not open to a different view, or live and let live, we are all different, we don’t all believe the same etc are they? Full of deranged seething hate indeed.

the cynic in me says so that we have to reply to the post now, so engagement is higher...

the OP would have been a prime candidate for us to have used the "laugh" reaction, only for the poster to complain to MN that we were all being nasty bigoted bullies.

Amnesty lost their way a long time ago so this is just more illiberal woke BS from the authoritarian hard left. Might as well be Donald Trump speaking for all the value they bring to the world these days. If you try to rationalise the harm experienced by women by sex work and gender ideology then your pants are on fire.

Fgs, go and use the consenting women and leave the non consenting ones alone, mate. They don't want to play with you, and they don't have to.

The use of rhetoric in that article is embarrassingly poor and makes me question the veracity of anything they say.

I must be really behind the times - what happened to the Amnesty International that campaigned on behalf of political prisoners and whose national branches remained impartial about activities in their own country? Looks like they've gone the way of the Green Party and expanded into left-wing progressive causes.

The usual. High on their own morality.

not read thread cannot be arsed. Relieved to learn that the named (well sort of) groups with shedloads of Monet have nothing to do with us.

Mumsnet, why did you take the laugh react from us? Why?

I asked on another thread you started but you never bothered to answer.

Course not. Bee’s threads are usually a drive-by plop of whatever nonsense he’s found now, in another tedious attempt to “educate” us.

And Amnesty have long since joined Stonewall as a busted flush.

What the hell have Amnesty been smoking?

The difference is that to a large extent the aims of Stonewall have all been achieved so to keep the gravy train rolling they latched onto transexuals as the new oppressed group.
Amnesty on the other hand have completely lost the plot. There are just as many countries abusing human rights as there were sixty-odd years when Amnesty was founded. That's really abusing human rights too like murder, imprisonment & torture. The founders must be spinning in their graves to see the organisation concentrate on campaigning against women's rights in the UK instead.

Our analysis maps the nature and finances of 65 anti-rights groups operating across the UK, including anti-abortion organisations, groups promoting so-called "conversion therapy," UK branches of powerful US-based organisations, and ultra-conservative Christian groups, with many groups emerging since 2015.

are any of these gender critical feminists?

http://archive.today/IhIBn

Here is an archive link

Bee wants to be very careful with the forced-teaming stuff, considering who transactivists have often been aligned with.

stop shitposting.

If you would change your tone, and not write such inflamatory first posts, insulting everyone and then challenging us not to be cross with you, you would get much better answers.

But for the record: just because two organisations have one thing in common, it does not mean that their goals are in alignment over everything else.

HTH

There is a reason Amnesty is also known as Amnasty.

And in the meantime, this OP has just stated that a male person's breast is identical to a female person's breast. And did so with great confidence and authority too.

Another male expert on the female body and breastfeeding! I feel seriously embarrassed for them when these posters think this is the case.

Wow, I can't quite believe Amnesty are advocating to disenfranchise anyone. How far they've fallen.

This is so far from their original aims :(

I suppose those who began Amnesty feel they have much in common with those who began Stonewall. Their message - and their work has been so subverted. (I was a strong supporter of the original Stonewall too.)

Thanks!

https://thecritic.co.uk/amnesty-and-political-prisoners-in-ireland/

Link to article about how Human rights organisations in Ireland are calling for the disenfranchisement of those who do not share their political views

Let Them Speak!

Just like Stonewall.

Not this again.

Bee in the UK sex realism is a grassroots movement started by feminist women, the overwhelming majority of which are on the left of the political spectrum.

There are so many issues that you could start threads about if you care about trans people. Bringing up the US far right funding bogeyman is not getting you anywhere

But please carry on posting, generating revenue for mumsnet and keeping threads on feminist board on active!