Trans charity launches defence of men ‘who can breastfeed’

I have asked this on X and on previous threads here. If this is about the baby or even about the male parent being able to bond with the baby, why do we not encourage non trans identifying men to take drugs to allow them to share the burden of breastfeeding?

Ms Buckley will also never be able to experience being a lion, a zebra, a member of the Royal Family or a potted plant.
Life is so cruel sometimes, but we all have to learn to manage our many small disappointments.
A properly engaged parent would hopefully want the best for their child, be it safely manufactured formula or breastmilk from a female who is not full of dubious drugs.

*'I will never know what's it like to menstruate or carry a baby or give birth,' Ms Buckley said.

'But to be told I could have the opportunity to breastfeed, it was something that was nice to be able to experience as a trans woman.'

Ms Buckley said her endocrinologist had suggested she try to produce breast milk a couple of months before her wife gave birth*.

I wonder how many infertile women do this, how many lesbian partner mothers do this?

And, yes, I know that adopting mothers can use lactation supplementation devices where they attach a tube to their nipple so that the baby can suckle formula 'at the breast'. I feel uneasy about these devices. Babies are not validation humans, any more than women are. On the other hand, I do remember the distress of struggling to breastfeed my dc1. But dc1 received just as much love, eye-contact, security and nutrition through the bottle as through the breast, and that was vastly more important than how I felt about the whole business.

Agree, and let's face it, surrogacy will give lots more babies to be experimented on.

We need those in power to stop trying to explain and simply start to enforce, as is their job.

Unfortunately, after a couple of weeks, the updated Moma admin were forced to start a new group and inform members to move there before the group closed down, rather than keep running.

there were a few flounces when the first announcement to change to Moma was made, but really not many. then I think LLL insisted they set up a new group from scratch. Which is a spiteful and pointless imo but there you are. I think the remaining group will close as no admin.

Good. Women said this is exactly what they will have to do.

Set up alternative women only organisations. Like the LGB, and now Moma.

This is good news!

LLL have had a hissy fit as at least one very good peer breastfeeding support facebook group has been changed to Moma, as the leaders have switched to that group.

More proof positive that LLL only care about the menz.

worth noting that Moma support any woman / female and are female only. So yes the NBs are included.

They think saying male milk isn’t as good as women’s is “transmisogyny” though.

In number terms yes, but these things have a propensity to grow out of all proportion.You only have to think of Andrew Wakefield and how he and his few acolytes managed to big up a very faulty piece of research into the Measles Vaccine fiasco to realise that if a lie is repeated enough times some people think it becomes a truth.

men can breastfeed

anyone can change sex

cross sex hormones are reversible

a vaginal pouch works the same as a real vagina

you walk among transidentifying men and never notice them

men can become lesbians

If, in practice, this is all about helping non binary women breastfeed, then knock yourselves out tbh. Especially if they're not on hormones, but just, you know, wearing manly clothes or whatever.

I'm not sure what "co-nursing" is but in my head it means, say, me breastfeeding my son next to my SIL breastfeeding her daughter.

But if it's all about helping men breastfeed then they can get into the sea.

Reading the article, I'm not sure tbh. I think it's all about transmen-mothers (ie female)

I saw this article a few days ago. Frankly I didn't read it because just the idea of it made me nauseous but this thread reminded me (I actually hoped someone else might have seen it so I could spare myself). It's as rage inducing as I feared it would be and I literally feel sick

https://archive.ph/53OOQ

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/28/nhs-midwives-trans-breastfeeding-workshops/

Joan Smith wrote about it in Unherd

https://archive.ph/HaCwA

https://unherd.com/newsroom/why-is-the-nhs-running-male-breastfeeding-workshops/?us

It's worth clicking on the Unherd link to read the comments, ignoring their resident tra, LangCleg makes an appearance and the article was archived before most were posted.

The NHS are paying for this indoctrination.

Women who struggle with breastfeeding have to just get on with formula, regardless of how they feel

This is what gets my goat. There are many many women who want to breast feed their own baby but can’t for any number of reasons, physical or medical, but there seems to be very little effort or money put into helping them. As you say they have no option but to use formula.

Why anyone thinks that any money should be spent on men who want to carry out this strange behaviour before every effort has been made to help mothers is unfathomable to me.

Why do males need to breastfeed to bond with their children?!

Women who struggle with breastfeeding have to just get on with formula, regardless of how they feel.

Medication with lactation isn't given out routinely for women if they struggle with breastfeeding. Women can't get help with breastfeeding a lot of the time full stop.

BUT BEHOLD, A MAN HAS ARRIVED so we must pander to his needs.

Women's health and wellbeing isn't even on the radar in this narrative. If a male is breastfeeding the child, whats happening with the mother?

While I agree with your sentiment, I disagree on this: "After giving birth there's a visceral urge to protect your child".
If you are a healthy (enough) adult, yes, of course there is: it's how Nature intended it to be. But we live in a "fallen world": in other words, there are many cases of women who are prevented/unable to form the natural bond with their babies that is required to protect them. It is an utterly, terribly sad reality: some mothers can't love their children.
I believe these sexual predators know and choose these women purposefully.

It's child abuse.

Why can't people, especially those who should fucking know better, see men "breastfeeding" for exactly what it is?

No, it didn't.

What I am struggling to grasp is how many women are so desperate to believe that what is so obviously perverted or predatory male behaviour isn't perverted or predatory.

Well, it's literally child sexual exploitation. One child suffering from it is one child too many.

The person I feel desperately sorry for in each of these situations (apart from the baby of course) is the mother. No matter how right-on she was before giving birth, there's just no way that she doesn't realise on some level that what her male partner is doing is deeply wrong. After giving birth there's a visceral urge to protect your child. So she's having to override that feeling from an even stronger fear - of what? Afraid of the man's reaction if she says no to him? Ostracisation from the community? Or she's just that confused by the weird messaging that she suppresses her instincts?

My heart just breaks for those mothers. This will haunt them forever. They'll look back on their child's baby photos and be haunted remembering they let this happen.

Wow, well done Helle.

No wonder trans activists attempt to shut Mumsnet down. Look at all this information, guaranteed to make people instantly grasp for the problem.

And if anyone is reading this thread and disagrees, then they are the problem.

Cabbageheads · Today 09:03

The number of men actually attempting to breastfeed babies might be v small, but lactation fetish is fairly well recognised,

Exactly. However, cross-dressing fetishism was also fairly well recognised and that didn't stop the trans cyborg.

Fortunately, as the ideology dies a death, I really don't think that the really quite revolting fetishism arm of it is going to be its saviour.

If you remove the baby from the equation, there's no way for a doctor to justify using the medication in this way. (I'm pretty sure we all agree that the baby doesn't justify it either).

As I have said before regarding anyone who contributes to, facilitates or participates in any male abusing an infant by forcing it to suckle and ingest secretions from a male nipple… How many of these evil people would be happy to drink the “milk” from a bull that had been medicated and drugged so much that it leaked pus? After all, they reckon it is milk, and just as good as a Mother’s breast milk for the baby, so they can have bull juices. 🤢🤢🤮🤢

Which led to Milli Hill's answering peice

https://millihill.substack.com/p/dear-bbc-youve-got-your-facts-wrong

Sorry OP, I am just collecting all the links I have so others who have not read them can get the information. It really defies reason that anyone can continue to support male people in this endeavour.

Bosky posted this and it is excellent to get some of these links in one place.

This article by Children of Transitioners is shocking! NHS Safeguarding is deliberately ignoring information that COT has brought to its attention. This needs to be raised in Parliament.

COT wrote to NHS Safeguarding nine months ago about the NHS promoting and enabling sexual and physical abuse of babies and psychological abuse of older children of transitioners and have still not had a reply!

Safeguarding Concerns in the NHS

22 Feb 2024

Many readers have seen Children of Transitioners’ letter from Sussex NHS Trust (thanks for your help Lottie/ Biology Matters project) link here.

Policy Exchange Biology Matters COTS Letter

Many press reports focus on the male secretion content rather than the ethics of unnecessary experiments with unlicensed drugs on babies or the use of infants in sexual paraphilias such as lactation fetish. There is no understanding that children with a parent who is trans should be safeguarded as other children are. The conflicts between the NHS LGBT/Stonewall rainbow badge scheme requirements and the rights and safeguarding of children of transitioners were apparently not noticed by NHS safeguarding staff before the scheme was heavily funded.

Since May 2023, we have been waiting for NHS England’s safeguarding team to respond to the safeguarding concerns and regulatory, legal, human rights and ethical failures we raised. We are therefore releasing this email so everyone can access our concerns.

See full article to read email to NHS Safeguarding - it contains terms and information that would probably get this post deleted:

https://childrenoftransitioners.org/2024/02/22/safeguarding-concerns-in-the-nhs/
Archived: https://archive.ph/EyFQO

WRN has also put out a statement:

NO TO MALE "BREASTFEEDING

A Statement addressing attempts to normalise male 'breastfeeding'

Recent claims from the Medical Director of University Hospitals Sussex NHS Trust that 'human milk' produced following 'induced lactation' as 'ideal for infants' is scientifically unproven and constitutes a dangerous escalation in the 'gender' and 'inclusion' narrative.

WRN strongly condemns the latest attempts to normalise the notion that males can sustainably produce the nutritional requirements of an infant. They cannot do so and should not be encouraged to try.

Breastfeeding is a complex biological process. A mother's milk adapts to the changing needs of her baby, providing essential nutrients and antibodies tailored to support the infant's growth and development. Colostrum is particularly important in preparing a baby’s gut for life outside the womb. Males do not possess the necessary physiological mechanisms to replicate this process.

Breastfeeding operates on a supply-and-demand basis. A baby's suckling stimulates milk production in the mother. Allowing a male to put a baby to his nipple can disrupt this delicate balance, affecting the mother's milk supply and compromising the infant's nutritional intake.

There exists a disturbing trend among male trans activists who openly use breastfeeding and breast milk fetishism for sexual gratification. This is the most dangerous aspect of a culture that seeks to affirm and validate identities rather than maintaining a sharp focus on the risks to the health and welfare of the baby and the mother. Greater effort should go towards providing support for women who want to breastfeed.

It is the responsibility of all media outlets to do due diligence and report only the facts on this topic, and to use clear language that does not obscure the sex of those being reported. There is insufficient evidence to support male breastfeeding and no research on the effects on the infant.

NHS Trusts have a duty of care to ensure that all published information and reference sources on induced lactation are based on rigorous scientific evidence and priority must be placed on the well-being of the baby.

We appeal to Victoria Atkins MP as Secretary of State for Health and Social Care to intervene, and insist that the NHS provides ethical, factual guidance based on evidence from accepted research.

https://www.womensrights.network/breastfeeding-statement

Archived: https://archive.ph/1tsCY

As if to demonstrate how depraved this whole scenario is, Pink News celebrates a man who has an OnlyFans account so other man can pay to watch him "breastfeeding":

Archived to avoid giving clicks to PN:

Yes, trans women can breastfeed too. Here’s why it’s safe, healthy and good for both mum and baby

Feb 19 2024

https://archive.is/JkniV