Trans charity launches defence of men ‘who can breastfeed’

@kinsters - it is happening though.

And even if it is just one baby that is one baby too many that is being abused (and not just by "chest"feeding either - its all the other nonsense they will be taught as they grow up)
Sadly its already a lot more than just one baby.

I wouldn't suggest trying to milk a bull... ewwwww!!!! and ouch!!!

If injecting synthetic oestrogen into a male makes them indistinguishable from females, why don't dairy farmers do this with bullocks?

Does anyone remember the quote about the 'sizzle of electricity' that one male person felt when an infant's lips touched their nipple to suckle? The one that pondered whether women felt this arousal as well?

I cannot find it.

And I don't really want to google it...

Just about sums it up.

The only people on OLD who appear to be allowed to say NO trans, are trans.

Clearly missing the memo about how um 'identical', everything is.

Bee forgets, that there are an awful lot of tw who don't mind showing exactly how different their anatomy is.

And who can forget India Willoughby on Big Brother openly rubbing all into his chest saying I feel nothing, it's meaningless.

you know, as women do!

Also, bioidentical is not naturally produced for that specific body, by that specific body. Plus, of course, modulated by an endrocrine system with the coding needed for that specific body.

As you say, bioidentical? So what?

Imagine thinking that male breasts are 'just like female breasts'!

It speaks volumes about the ignorance that men have about the development of women's breasts, hormones, pregnancy and breast feeding.

And yet .... they will enter into discussions to spread misinformation everywhere.

I expect in the same way that penises and clitorises are really the same but one goes out and the other in.

”The hormones are bio-identical”. So fucking what?

Crazy stuff.

Also, as well as

How male 'breast tissue' becomes the interactive system that is behind the breast and endocrine system of a female person?

Can you please use your expertise in female breast tissue and breastfeeding to describe exactly how the "hormones are bio-identical"? How can this possible?

Looking forward to you showing your expertise!

@BeeSouriante This is deja vu isn't it?

Would you, who has declared that they know about female breasts like to to tell us all how male 'breast tissue' becomes the interactive system that is behind the breast and endocrine system of a female person?

Please can you answer this, I have been waiting for an answer for months.

I wouldn't mind but you could play spot the transwoman on a dating site who would completely disagree with Bee!

😂😂😂😂😂
".. trans women's breasts are no different to cisgender women's breasts.."

In your fantasies mate.

Well they're a bit different, given that the breast cells of a transwoman have got a y chromosome in them.

They do, agree @RobinHeartella. It’s deliberately unclear so that people aren’t quite sure what they mean.

I understand and wasn't accusing you. Yes that makes sense when they say transmisogyny they mean transwomen.

In my defence, they do deliberately use obscure language leaving people wondering which sex they're talking about. So I wondered

Ms Buckley will also never be able to experience being a lion, a zebra, a member of the Royal Family or a potted plant.
Life is so cruel sometimes, but we all have to learn to manage our many small disappointments.

This is why I find it difficult to believe that anyone who has been a parent or a teacher can possible support this ideology.

Transgenderism is the antithesis of common-sense.

I think their “inclusion” schtick covers both men who identify as women and women who
identify as men.

I don’t use genderist language. When I talk about men that’s what I’m referring to.

They mean the actual men, hence “misogyny”

'reasonable to estimate' = I'm making it up

There is a huge amount of detailed misinformation about safety and desirability of men inducing lactation in order to "breastfeed" babies in these two articles:

Lactation and theTranssexual Woman [Part 1]
https://secondtypewoman.info/lactation.htm

Lactation and theTranssexual Woman [Part 2]
https://secondtypewoman.info/lactation1.htm

This jumped out at me from the second article, for the estimated number of post-op male transsexuals in the UK who father children via surrogacy and frozen sperm: 700 a year!!

I have no idea if this is in any way accurate or pure propaganda, particularly since it recommends Mermaids as a source of information, but it also references the NHS. Would "the NHS" even hold this sort of information?

"There are no good statistics but using sources such as the NHS and Mermaids, it is reasonable to estimate that in the UK at least 700 post-GCS transwomen become the mother of a newborn baby each year. Most of these women are in their 20's or 30's, and many have used sperm frozen before surgery to impregnate a surrogate mother. They are thus just as much genetically related to the baby as a natal woman would be! Denying them the right to then breastfeed the baby is tragic."

I can feel another trawl of "What Do They Know?" coming on, unless someone already has information to confirm or debunk these claims?

I know that they deliberately obscure language to confuse us but do they mean transmen's milk or transwomen's "milk" [pus]?

If they're going on about transmen's milk then I mean, if that transmen is the mother then that's the best thing for the baby.

I wonder because their slogan is "boys have babies too" (eurgh), which, while being grossly childlike, implies to me that they're centring transmen who are mothers. Ie female women who dress like men