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Mayor of London Sadiq Khan speaks out on Supreme Court’s definition of ‘sex’

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IwantToRetire · 07/07/2025 20:15

“As the Mayor of London I meet regularly with trans Londoners and I know the stigma they face, the discrimination they face. I know this is one of those vulnerable communities across the country and across the world, and I’m fed up with trans people being used as a political football.

“I’m fed up with them being at the centre of a cruel cultural war. And that’s why it’s really important that the Equality and Human Rights Commission comes up with proper guidance because what I don’t want is us to regress the rights that have been hard-fought and won been rowed back.”

https://www.attitude.co.uk/news/mayor-of-london-speaks-out-about-supreme-courts-definition-of-sex-487186/

I was going to add this to the tread about Labour letting down the trans community but that has been deleted for infringing copyright.

Mayor of London Sadiq Khan speaks out on Supreme Court's definition of 'sex' (EXCLUSIVE)

"As the Mayor of London I meet regularly with Trans Londoners and I know the stigma they face, the discrimination they face"

https://www.attitude.co.uk/news/mayor-of-london-speaks-out-about-supreme-courts-definition-of-sex-487186/

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IwantToRetire · 08/07/2025 01:13

Manteiga · 07/07/2025 21:29

Copyrighted material doesn't become public domain as soon as someone copies it! Whether linking to copyright-infringing material might itself constitute infringement seems a bit complex, and boring. I can see why Mumsnet wouldn't want to test out the law.

But I don't understand why they deleted the whole thread rather than just edit out the archive link. There were 4 pages of posts already.

Yes can see I shouldn't have used the word domain, but wanted to make clear I hadn't made the copy.

And yes the internet is not very well regulated, but should I or anyone else not post a link to an article that is archived.

If that is now their policy they need to make everyone aware.

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proximalhumerous · 07/07/2025 22:48

This is a man who is married and has two young adult daughters.

Nchangeo · 07/07/2025 22:32

Was just making a decaf and I had further reflection on this.

This topic is the perfect combination of ethics, morals, critical thinking and whether someone has a backbone.

It’s actually a very basic test as it’s quite a low bar for all of the above (probably a medium- high bar for the latter (backbone) in the tough times of the past).

Yet 90% of the populace pass this very basic test. And yet 95% of our politicians didn’t. It’s really quite damning.

SionnachRuadh · 07/07/2025 22:29

Nice to see our distinguished Mayor on his usual form

Mayor of London Sadiq Khan speaks out on Supreme Court’s definition of ‘sex’
Nchangeo · 07/07/2025 22:25

Khans always been dodgy so not sure why this is surprising

TheOtherRaven · 07/07/2025 22:20

PennyAnnLane · 07/07/2025 21:43

These people must live on a different planet to me, I don’t see a vulnerable community at all, I see a group of men with fetishes who could identify out of this so called ‘vulnerable’ group by simply changing their clothes at any point, and frequently do when it suits them.

I see the same group.

This population undeniably includes violent, aggressive, sexually fetishistic men who freely desire to control, harass, abuse and harm women in women's spaces. Who seek to end women's right to homosexuality. And even the 'nice' ones have no fucks to give if they exclude or distress or humiliate women as they meet their own needs in women's spaces.

Is Mr Khan in denial about this, or does he merely think those born women have a responsibility to suck this up for the greater good of all men?

TheOtherRaven · 07/07/2025 22:15

Trans rights are unaffected.

It was women's rights that were illegally 'rowed back' for men; Mr Khan believes this row back should be fixed in law.

Mr Khan believes that men have an entitlement to non consenting women's bodies that should not be disrupted by anything such as consideration for women.

He does not even mention women. They do not even figure in the situation for him.

I'm reaching whole new depths of disgust for these people in responsible positions who apparently are all for vigorously embracing male supremacism.

FrodoTheBlueWhippet · 07/07/2025 21:47

Misogynist tosser

That sums it up

PennyAnnLane · 07/07/2025 21:43

These people must live on a different planet to me, I don’t see a vulnerable community at all, I see a group of men with fetishes who could identify out of this so called ‘vulnerable’ group by simply changing their clothes at any point, and frequently do when it suits them.

EasternStandard · 07/07/2025 21:38

This kind of thing isn’t unusual for Labour men.

So shite. If only we didn’t have to put up with the misogyny.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 07/07/2025 21:36

myplace · 07/07/2025 20:16

@IwantToRetire how did that thread infringe copyright? I haven’t been on it today. Can’t imagine what that’s about!

My guess would be the reason given to MN was an infringement of copyright but i expect the real reason strudwick got his pants in a knot is the fact that his nonsense article was ripped to bits

Theeyeballsinthesky · 07/07/2025 21:34

senua · 07/07/2025 21:21

As the Mayor of London I meet regularly with trans Londoners
And women? Does he meet them. too?

Good Lord no!! He doesn’t want to meet the boring original kind of women, only the shiny new kind with prostates

Theeyeballsinthesky · 07/07/2025 21:32

He’s akways been an utter beeee kind twat on this issue

but on the plus side it does give me the opportunity to post this again . I think it’s pretty easy to tell who are the men and who are the women here

Mayor of London Sadiq Khan speaks out on Supreme Court’s definition of ‘sex’
bringonyourwreckingball · 07/07/2025 21:30

I am so fucking fed up with this bullshit. Trans people have the same rights everyone has not to be discriminated against but self-id is not and never has been the law in this country and all those organizations letting male people self identify into women’s spaces which to even exist need to pass a pretty high threshold of necessity for reasons of fairness, privacy, dignity etc are trampling all over women’s rights. Over 50% of the population being sacrificed for the privileged entitlements of a few. Some of whom have questionable motives. And no I don’t care if you personally are ok to pee next to/change with/be intimately cared for or examined by a transwoman, you do not get to consent for all women and also you aren’t just letting in the trans women you are letting in all men because that;s how discrimination law works.

Manteiga · 07/07/2025 21:29

IwantToRetire · 07/07/2025 20:50

I imagine that the author of the article complained as he wouldn't want his valued status of the "i" very special trans correspondent made available to the the GC harridans on FWR!
https://inews.co.uk/opinion/labour-promised-lgbt-voters-a-reset-now-many-feel-betrayed-3787433 - which can be read by going to archive.ph and copying the newspaper link.

Special note to MNHQ I am not breaching copy right but making this statement of fact as i didn't create the archive. It has already been done and is therefore in the public domain.

Copyrighted material doesn't become public domain as soon as someone copies it! Whether linking to copyright-infringing material might itself constitute infringement seems a bit complex, and boring. I can see why Mumsnet wouldn't want to test out the law.

But I don't understand why they deleted the whole thread rather than just edit out the archive link. There were 4 pages of posts already.

Datun · 07/07/2025 21:26

Whilst marching with drag queens and calling the decimation of women's rights a culture war and feeling sorry for the transwomen advocating for it, he says

"...what I don’t want is us to regress the rights that have been hard-fought and won been rowed back.”

There are no rights that have been hard fought for. Only the breaking of the law. And nothing is being rolled back.

The law has just been confirmed, and it's been confirmed that the likes of stonewall have recommended breaking it.

littlbrowndog · 07/07/2025 21:23

littlbrowndog · 07/07/2025 21:22

Well no.

Unless they are the right sort of women

littlbrowndog · 07/07/2025 21:22

senua · 07/07/2025 21:21

As the Mayor of London I meet regularly with trans Londoners
And women? Does he meet them. too?

Well no.

Pleasantsort · 07/07/2025 21:22

Misogynist tosser

senua · 07/07/2025 21:21

As the Mayor of London I meet regularly with trans Londoners
And women? Does he meet them. too?

Datun · 07/07/2025 21:20

Talk about jump on the bandwagon, right when it's come crashing out the gates, is hurtling down the hill, just about to go over the fucking cliff.

As an acumen test, he couldn't have failed it harder.

zanahoria · 07/07/2025 21:19

"Mayor of London Sadiq Khan speaks out on Supreme Court’s definition of ‘sex’"

Actually he does no such thing.

He does not commit himself either way as to whether he agrees with it. He just says "it’s really important that the Equality and Human Rights Commission comes up with proper guidance", which is once stripped of rhetoric about culture war is actually a meaningless statement.

He has gone to Pride to grub for votes, but he is too scared to put his neck on the line and say he disagrees with the court or what the EHRC should actually do.

littlbrowndog · 07/07/2025 21:19

Dude is an idiot yet so many people vote for him.

he is so smary

yet so many people vote for him

don’t know what that says about people that vote for an idiot

Talkinpeace · 07/07/2025 21:16

Every person in that photo is male or female
and he knows which ones he'll ignore
cos he's a misogynist

DialSquare · 07/07/2025 21:14

Why don’t these idiots just come out and say that women are not entitled to any single thing relating to their own sex.

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