How does it even affect you? Just be kind.

You can if you are trans and go through the correct process.

I’m not saying whether or not I agree with it. But your statement that you can’t do that is wrong. You can.

And if people don’t include all their previous names? How is this checked?

What are you talking about? You’ve completed made this up, or you just really don’t understand how it works or didn’t even read your own link.

When you go through any DBS check, you must include all your past names. Transgender people cannot hide their past from a DBS check. It is linked to them.

The sensitive application route just means that your employer or organisation doing the check won’t be told your previous name. Any of your convictions will still show, just like any DBS check. Your employer just won’t be told your old name, if you don’t want to be outed as trans. It has absolutely no bearing at all on whether or not your criminal history is disclosed. If it should be slow, depending on the type of DBS check, then it will be shown.

A trans persons not including their old names would be treated just like anyone else not including their old names on a DBS.

You should have mumsnet delete this thread so you can start a factually accurate one.

But… we cannot just get a new Birth Certificate that alters our sex.

How does it affect you?

• Should we all only care and campaign about things that directly affect us? I'm hopefully unlikely to ever be in prison, I hope to never need a DV refuge, but the women who are there deserve for someone to care and to make their world safer, wouldn't you agree?
• How does the Israel/Palestine conflict affect you? Why do you have such strong and vocal opinions on US politics? What does that have to do with you?
• It affects me that I am expected to share spaces designated as female-only with men and not speak up. It affects me in the same way women for centuries have been ignored, demonstrating which sex has the more power.

And this post shows that you got no idea what are you talking about.

Anyone in the UK can change their name as often as they wish and there is no governmental mechanism to, well, govern or limit it. You fill in a deed poll and you are done, send it over to related places, and your documents get updated. There is no "reason" field on a deed poll.

So you are literally making things up to create problems as trans-related.

I totally agree!

I am extremely law abiding so there is little probability of me ever going to jail but that doesn't mean that I am ok with female prisoners being locked in together with rapists. They have been sentenced to jail time. Not to jail time and torture.

I don't get the whole 'covering up my history thing' and welcome anyone to enlighten me...like I understand that in transitioning, trans people want to become more like their authentic selves. I do get that, however surely there's an authenticity in acknowledging the journey you have been on.

We aren't just the people we appear to be today - we're made up of a whole host of life experiences, socialisation etc out experiences make us who we are. So in the spirit of authenticity, why is it that there are these rules about covering trans history, redacting pronouns in historic paperwork etc? Why can't a trans person just be like 'look I'm trans, this is where I've come from and this is who I am now' if there is no shame in it?

When a trans identified man, who worked at Screwfix, asked if I wanted to buy a lottery ticket and I politely declined, and he then very obviously got aroused by that seemingly innocent interaction, it affected me because I had unwillingly been involved in his sexual immersive roleplay. It made me feel icky and violated. I did not shop in Screwfix for the next several months until my husband could inform me that the trans identified man had not been seen in the shop since. I was also wary to to enter other shops in that period as I didn't know if the trans identified man lived locally. So his inability to only include others in his kink with their consent limited my freedom of movement for several months.

Rule number one about kinks is that you only include other people with their consent. I do not see why one group of kinks should be excluded from that rule.

I think one of the major issues with this mantra is that if women only campaigned on issues that directly impacted them, little would be done for those hugely significant issues that only impact a small group of women, often who cannot raise their voice.

It is such a nonsense take. It is meant to be silencing but it is thought terminating. And the people who use it have showed they stopped thinking as soon as they heard it.

It is the same as ‘it is none of your business, why are you discussing it’. It is another way of saying ‘Shut the fuck up!’