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How does it even affect you? Just be kind.

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Shedmistress · 07/07/2025 09:22

We all get this endlessly from every angle. Why do you care?
Why can't you just let this vulnerable group quietly get on with their lives?
It's just a tiny minority so go do something better with your day...

So I thought it would be a good idea to have a thread of 'ways it affects other people' and the effects of losing all logic, reason, sense of reality, and how health, safety and welfare are thrown out of the window the moment the word 'trans' is mentioned.

Please feel free to add your own with a link to what you are talking about. Especially documents relating to policy and processes that are wide open to abuse.

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JanineLory · 08/07/2025 17:10

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Shedmistress · 08/07/2025 16:34

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Jesus, it really is so disgusting, im so sorry.

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Waitwhat23 · 08/07/2025 16:29

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The fact it was laughed off while you were vulnerable is horrifying. Sorry that happened to you.

Waitwhat23 · 08/07/2025 16:28

MarieDeGournay · 08/07/2025 15:10

I haven't seen 'flat earth' being mirrored - that's a real humdinger, thanks, Wait, I'll add it to my list.
You don't happen to have an example of it in use, do you?

I suppose when your whole cosmogony is based on men being women, words are just things to be thrown around randomly...

I have tried but I can't remember which thread it was on. Fairly sure it was part of a backslapping dialogue between our buzzy friend and the American cyclist.

JanineLory · 08/07/2025 15:39

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ArabellaScott · 08/07/2025 15:20

it reminds me of a fractious, over-tired 5 year old shouting back 'No it's past YOUR bedtime so YOU put your pyjamas on and go to bed!'

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UnlockedXCX · 08/07/2025 15:15

I'm a nerdy type of person, and a lot of of my obscure hobbies (online) are overrun by TRAs. It's pretty inhospitable if you disagree with anything and doubly frustrating to be amongst people who say things like "priest and nun were genders" and "nobody knew what male/female were until colonism" lol. You can post an image of like idk bread and someone will reply to it with "woah this bread is so gender"

I miss my hobbies but I hate the people who inhabit them. So I suppose I can say it's impacted me by ruining the things I love.

MarieDeGournay · 08/07/2025 15:10

Waitwhat23 · 08/07/2025 12:59

I've seen at least two uses of flat earth in relation to GC views and thought, 'my, you've got a cheek'.

I haven't seen 'flat earth' being mirrored - that's a real humdinger, thanks, Wait, I'll add it to my list.
You don't happen to have an example of it in use, do you?

I suppose when your whole cosmogony is based on men being women, words are just things to be thrown around randomly...

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/07/2025 13:49

MarieDeGournay · 08/07/2025 12:13

DARVOing is currently a big thing for trans posters, I'm keeping a list of examples of things that have been said on here to critique trans ideology being mirrored back - without any explanation or justification of course.

Some quick examples - 'cognitive dissonance' 'the law as it is and not as you want it to be' 'you have been lied to' 'trans people are just a tiny percentage of the population'

These words and phrases have frequently been used by GC feminists in discussing trans ideology, and all of them have recently been 'mirrored' back by trans posters.

Of course, words are empty if there is no factual context to back them up, so what they are doing is very obvious and it just looks silly - it reminds me of a fractious, over-tired 5 year old shouting back 'No it's past YOUR bedtime so YOU put your pyjamas on and go to bed!'

It's interesting to see that not just words but actions being 'mirrored' - violent acts which have been perpetrated AGAINST GC women being reversed as perpetrated BY GC women.

Once you're aware of the 'mirroring', you'll spot it when it's used.

It’s always been a thing. It was the thing I noticed most when I first became aware of “trans rights” activism a decade ago. It’s a signature of this movement, because so much of it is based on cluster B personality disorders such as NPD.

DeanElderberry · 08/07/2025 13:30

borntobequiet · 08/07/2025 12:46

Yes, it’s very evident. It’s almost as if they have very limited thought processes and vocabularies and no actual ideas of their own that aren’t dependent on some slogan or thought-terminating cliché. So they magpie anything that comes their way.
I’ve been intrigued by their hilarious misuse of ‘cognitive dissonance’ and ‘critical thinking’.

ain't it just

Waitwhat23 · 08/07/2025 12:59

I've seen at least two uses of flat earth in relation to GC views and thought, 'my, you've got a cheek'.

borntobequiet · 08/07/2025 12:46

Yes, it’s very evident. It’s almost as if they have very limited thought processes and vocabularies and no actual ideas of their own that aren’t dependent on some slogan or thought-terminating cliché. So they magpie anything that comes their way.
I’ve been intrigued by their hilarious misuse of ‘cognitive dissonance’ and ‘critical thinking’.

MarieDeGournay · 08/07/2025 12:13

SamiSnail · 08/07/2025 11:52

You're gaslighting and DARVOing. It is the trans activists who threaten to rape and bash and murder GC feminists, who say we should be raped til our uterus ruptures, we should be skinned alive, burned alive, die in a grease fire etc. You TRAs are so vile and vicious with your hate you can't help but react to every woman and threaten them then play the victim.

Women are not the ones giving rape threats, death threats and urinating on feminist statues. Your mob are. Own it. That's what you are.

DARVOing is currently a big thing for trans posters, I'm keeping a list of examples of things that have been said on here to critique trans ideology being mirrored back - without any explanation or justification of course.

Some quick examples - 'cognitive dissonance' 'the law as it is and not as you want it to be' 'you have been lied to' 'trans people are just a tiny percentage of the population'

These words and phrases have frequently been used by GC feminists in discussing trans ideology, and all of them have recently been 'mirrored' back by trans posters.

Of course, words are empty if there is no factual context to back them up, so what they are doing is very obvious and it just looks silly - it reminds me of a fractious, over-tired 5 year old shouting back 'No it's past YOUR bedtime so YOU put your pyjamas on and go to bed!'

It's interesting to see that not just words but actions being 'mirrored' - violent acts which have been perpetrated AGAINST GC women being reversed as perpetrated BY GC women.

Once you're aware of the 'mirroring', you'll spot it when it's used.

SamiSnail · 08/07/2025 11:52

BeeSouriante · 07/07/2025 18:37

I mean (a) if people are saying "be kind" a lot to you then perhaps try and work out what they're actually saying to you, (b) it's kinda hilarious that it's just an absence of 'being kind' that's the problem of GC activists. Death threats, attempting to burn people alive, frequent eliminationist rhetoric, lawfare, hooking up with far right / religious right groups, suicide baits, mocking suicides and assaults, constant use of slurs, bomb threats etc etc are, weirdly enough, not the absence of "being kind".

GCs have normalised their vileness so much that they even use slurs in legal documentation - explaining the hideousness of one routine GC slur to an MP the other day was a journey for me and a pikachu moment for her.

No, it's not the absence of 'being kind'.

You're gaslighting and DARVOing. It is the trans activists who threaten to rape and bash and murder GC feminists, who say we should be raped til our uterus ruptures, we should be skinned alive, burned alive, die in a grease fire etc. You TRAs are so vile and vicious with your hate you can't help but react to every woman and threaten them then play the victim.

Women are not the ones giving rape threats, death threats and urinating on feminist statues. Your mob are. Own it. That's what you are.

GnomeDePlume · 08/07/2025 11:14

It affects me at a simple level if any resources allocated for 'women' are now being split over a larger number of people. This can be money, space, time, attention.

It affects anyone who is only able (because of culture, experience) to use facilities if they can be confident that single sex means exactly that. Without that confidence, they are excluded even if in fact the facility is normally single sex.

Helleofabore · 08/07/2025 08:37

Flowers for all those sharing their experiences.

MumOfYoungTransAdult · 08/07/2025 08:33

@YorkshirePuddingsGreatestFan I am so sorry Flowers

It's not kind to take these particular sex-based boundaries down. Most of the time we don't need sex-based boundaries at all but when we need them we need them to be truly sex-based not gender identity. The Supreme Court got that right. Usually there can be unisex alternatives as well, and taken together we get to protect everyone. Which is kind.

YorkshirePuddingsGreatestFan · 08/07/2025 08:23

How does it even affect you?

I was using a ladies public toilet. I saw someone and thought "that's a man in a dress" but the be kind, be inclusive thing kicked in, so I didn't say anything.

Then he sexually assaulted me.

MumOfYoungTransAdult · 08/07/2025 08:14

So sorry @SisterofMCW Flowers

I would add "siblings and close family" as well as parents to the first two of Stella and Tanya's categories. And I could add a fifth category, which I guess I'd include myself in, of

Close family members of vulnerable people who believe that their loved ones have been wrongly advised by to transition or that transition has significantly added to their loved one's mental and physical health problems.

Shedmistress · 08/07/2025 06:02

This vile ideology has broken so many people, so sorry @SisterofMCW

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AidaP · 07/07/2025 09:50

And this post shows that you got no idea what are you talking about.

Anyone in the UK can change their name as often as they wish and there is no governmental mechanism to, well, govern or limit it. You fill in a deed poll and you are done, send it over to related places, and your documents get updated. There is no "reason" field on a deed poll.

So you are literally making things up to create problems as trans-related.

Yes you can change your name but on a DBS you 'have' to disclose other names you have been known as.

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 08/07/2025 00:36

There's nothing adequate to say, SisterofMCW. 🌹

MarieDeGournay · 07/07/2025 23:49

I'm so sorry, SisterofMCW , this must be heartbreaking Flowers

SisterofMCW · 07/07/2025 23:42

How does it affect me? Just be kind when your brother is told in therapy that he is not gay, he is a woman. Who now has to dilate twice a day. And still has all of the mental health problems (and more) he had before he attended therapy sessions led by a specialist in gender issues.

He was a vulnerable patient who was manipulated to "transition". But sure, let's be kind.

MarieDeGournay · 07/07/2025 22:40

TruthOrAlethiometer · 07/07/2025 16:58

It doesn’t allow them to hide their crimes though. Not at all. Which is what OP has alleged.

I think by now we can confidently say that you've failed the Turing test - no matter what I say, you say some variant of

It doesn’t allow them to hide their crimes though. Not at all. Which is what OP has alleged <click>It doesn’t allow them to hide their crimes though. Not at all. Which is what OP has alleged.<click>It doesn’t allow them to hide....

Like when you mentioned the possibility that a woman had used the special trans application process because she was in danger, and I pointed out that even if one women did, my issue is with the existence of a whole parallel system specifically designated for a tiny percentage of the population, and I quoted from the DBS website
Guidance
Transgender applications
Guidance and information regarding the sensitive applications route for transgender applicants.
Transgender applications - GOV.UK

Your reply?
It doesn’t allow them to hide their crimes though. Not at all. Which is what OP has alleged <click>It doesn’t allow them to hide their crimes though. Not at all. Which is what OP has alleged.<click>It doesn’t allow them to hide....

You can't get past that, can you?