What do whips, spandex and dog masks have to do with Pride?

@AidaP
'You like freedom of expression to hate and pearl clutch, others use it to be themselves.'

The others should have more ambition.

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There are not enough of these in the world.

I suspect the Matterhorn!

That some people have co opted pride as a vehicle to conduct their fetishes in public has been obvious for a while. Further to this some people seek to use it to break down boundaries around children and sex. That one of them feels able to freely admit here to grooming and child abuse and admit that in their opinion safeguarding is just a bunch of pearl clutching prudishness shows just how emboldened those with these intentions have become. How much time do you need to spend in your creepy echo chambers to think that teaching kids about bdsm, in detail, and exposing them to adults indulging in their fetishes purposely so you can introduce them to it is in any way acceptable?

LGTBQIA emphatically was not part of pride since the very beginning at Stonewall. If you want to know what really happened at Stonewall and at the first gay pride in New York, ask Fred Sargeant who was at Stonewall. His friend/lover Craig Rodwell, along with Fred, Ellen Briody and Linda Rhodes organised the first Gay Pride march in New York the following year on the anniversary of the Stonewall Riots. Fred is an active poster on twitter, so you can find many of his factual posts there. Pride was first and foremost for homosexual people, men and women, who were sick of being marginalised and harrassed for their sexual orientation.

You wonder what’s wrong with people who think it’s okay to behave that way in front of children. Quite sad really to think it’s probably because they were abused themselves and might not even realise it. They think it’s normal and should be normalised.

Whatever the cause, there’s no world in which sexualised behaviour is appropriate in front of children.

I am half tempted to set tgis up as an AIBU thread but the kink person is only here to piss the feminists off on this thread. I am bloody incandescent about what has been said here.

@JazzyJelly me too love x

Just catching up.

Certain posts on this thread have every red flag in the country gathering in one spot tonight.

I'm actually horrified by some posts.

@EveInEden if you mean Negan off of walking dead then all I can say is I have a rounders bat because I am English. Honestly I cannot read idiots talking about children in the way they have been earlier without swinging said rounders bat. Children have no place in sexual kink, it is not empowering for them, it is abusive. Adults involving children in anything sexual, even just dressing up around them is abuse. Lang clegg would invoke safeguarding and lang clegg would be right.

I really hope I'm being pessimistic. I'd very much like to think that the fight for homosexual equality in the UK is, at least in law, won.

What an load of bullshit. Embarrassing

You sound like Negan!

Agree. Parading sexual kink in front of children is grooming. Teaching them your preferences before they learn theirs. All under the guise of empowerment. Take a fought for word, fought for rights and turn it into abuse. Mainly men. Always men. Forever the men.

I really hope the illuminating posts on this thread are not deleted. They're highly disturbing, even distressing, but by feck, Aidan has said all the things out loud.

@JazzyJelly yes! At the point of the stonewall riots it wasn’t about same sex marriage but it was about treating people as the same as everyone else. The young men and women involved just wanted to be included and seen. Same sex marriage is enshrined in law as it should be. They fought to be included in society. Bad faith actors will need to up their game to take that away from homosexual people.

The great thing about this thread is that the next time Aida's wanging on about TiMs just wanting to live his life without judgment we'll know exactly why.

And he wonders why women don't want him and his ilk anywhere near female toilets or changing rooms.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the original point of gay pride (as was) to be seen as equal to heterosexual people/relationships?

I'm genuinely worried that there will be arguments against same sex marriage by reform-style bad actors, based on people (gay, bi or straight) showing off their kinks in public.

Who the fuck needs to know you can only get off by strapping yourself in pvc and wearing a dog mask? If that’s how you get off then do it at home. You have no business frotting yourself in public and if you do then please know the majority of the uk are laughing at you and classing you as a danger to yourself let alone children. We all know you look like uncooked bread dough and have marvel figurines stuck in the crevices nobody will ever find.

It's creepy as fuck and should be banned.

It does seem to be aot about the T...

What i don't understand is how trans came to be seen as a sexuality.

Sexuality is about who you fancy. No?

That will get me blocked and I do not care. Having had adults parade their sexual proclivities around me I am telling you right now it is abuse.

Well fuck me up the arse and put a dog collar on me and take me to pride! WTF? Check out any child abuse charity any sexual activity around children is abuse. Please listen to me. Behaving in a sexualised way in front of children is abuse. If you are doing this you are a child abuser. @AidaP

Wow this thread is disturbing.

I'm happily quite kinky (so no not at all judgemental of what consenting people do in private) but we go to all the lengths for our kids not to know this even though it means we don't do some of the things we'd like to.

There is no way I want kids to see that (or the men in nappies, or the dog leads etc...)

Kinky couples can marry, kinky couples can do what they like ... It's not like the stigma there was (still can be) around gay relationships. We don't need to be "proud" as it's not an issue. It's not a public matter.m...

Its hijacking what pride week was. It's not right on all the levels.

But by God why on earth would you intentionally want kids to see all this is mind boggling.

If the children mention this to a teacher at school they will report to social services as potential child abuse.