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What do whips, spandex and dog masks have to do with Pride?

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SnugglyJumpersMakeItBetter · 05/07/2025 18:30

They're kinks/fetishes right? Not related to sexual orientation. Also why are they anything to be 'proud' of? Your closest friends would probably find it pretty odd (and stomach turning!) if you told them your OH likes to wear your undies, or what gets you off is him licking your feet... Why is proclaiming what should be personal and private turn-ons to the general public any better? Why should they be glad for you in any way for being so open about it?

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Helleofabore · 07/07/2025 18:47

Barbie222 · 07/07/2025 18:44

Good grief, I come back here and the hole being dug has gotten even deeper. So now as well as explaining the bondage away to our young children, we’ve now also got to normalise a preference for barely legal, prepubescent looking young boys? Or did you not realise that’s how ‘twink’ is used in practice @Maddy70?

come on, let’s get that sun shining here too.

And bondage gear, and dog masks.

It has all been dismissed as being appropriate for children to witness and dismissed as not being huge, huge safeguarding red flags.

I think it is enlightening to see what gets dismissed on these threads.

Barbie222 · 07/07/2025 18:46

I’ll hang around for how to have the dogs in butt plugs explanation, too. Might as well make it a proper conversation

Barbie222 · 07/07/2025 18:44

Good grief, I come back here and the hole being dug has gotten even deeper. So now as well as explaining the bondage away to our young children, we’ve now also got to normalise a preference for barely legal, prepubescent looking young boys? Or did you not realise that’s how ‘twink’ is used in practice @Maddy70?

come on, let’s get that sun shining here too.

SionnachRuadh · 07/07/2025 18:44

Some are into twinks is saying the quiet bit out loud, isn't it? That bit of gay male culture never quite went away, but it used to be sensibly kept in the background. Now it's very much mainstream thanks to Pride and queer-themed media.

It's a bit like having a celebration of heterosexuality organised by the subscribers of Barely Legal magazine.

RufustheFactualReindeer · 07/07/2025 18:42

Thank you!!!!!

<preens>

Helleofabore · 07/07/2025 18:41

RufustheFactualReindeer · 07/07/2025 18:35

Yep helle

exactly the same….fact

it wasn’t even a subtle dodge of the question, it was like matrix

You 'giffed'!!! yay Rufus!

PeonyPatch · 07/07/2025 18:40

It is indecent to display this kind of thing in public.

ginasevern · 07/07/2025 18:36

AidaP · 05/07/2025 19:14

Why should people be ashamed of being into leathers?

You seriously implying, if not flat out saying, that people should be ashamed of who they are is exactly why those are part of PRIDE too, as that's at the core is what's it about - accepting and loving people of all makes, besides haters.

Nobody should be ashamed of wearing leathers or pretending to be a German Shepherd so long as no-one gets hurt, phsycially or emotionally. But why should anyone celebrate their choices? Pride was originally about raising awareness of homosexuality and to celebrate it's legalisation. Homosexuals were marginalised, discriminated against, persecuted and prosecuted. They were unable to live full lives without fear and dread. On the other hand, sexual kinks are just that. Gay, straight and anyone in between are legally and consensually free to do whatever they like in their own homes or dedicated clubs and always have been since time began. So why should I or anyone else celebrate the fact that Nigel next door likes to dress like a five year old girl and wear a nappy any more than celebrating the fact that I like chicken and chips?

RufustheFactualReindeer · 07/07/2025 18:36

I posted a gif all by myself 😀

RufustheFactualReindeer · 07/07/2025 18:35

Yep helle

exactly the same….fact

it wasn’t even a subtle dodge of the question, it was like matrix

Keanu Reeves Matrix GIF by Peacock
Helleofabore · 07/07/2025 18:33

RufustheFactualReindeer · 07/07/2025 18:31

Oh behave 😀

virtually all my 50+ friends have a leather jacket…but we don’t trot around with whips and men on a lead

Do you mean you haven't got out your chaps, gag mask and whips?

All ok apparently. All part of 'just wearing leather'.

RufustheFactualReindeer · 07/07/2025 18:31

Maddy70 · 07/07/2025 18:13

Of course it's ok if you don't want to wear leather don't... Those that do I frankly don't give a shit. Do whatever you want

Oh behave 😀

virtually all my 50+ friends have a leather jacket…but we don’t trot around with whips and men on a lead

Helleofabore · 07/07/2025 18:25

MrsOvertonsWindow · 07/07/2025 18:16

Bingo - another allegation of pearl clutching.
From a poster pontificating about "twinks". Who of course are our teenage and older sons. Something very grim about how the young are objectified by so many grubby old men and the like.

I thought so, Mrs O. I thought the dismissal of the specific objectification of young men quite startling.

I also couldn't see the relevance.

SerafinasGoose · 07/07/2025 18:25

Helleofabore · 07/07/2025 18:13

Is this going to be like a repeat of the dogs with butt plugs in IKEA thread?

FekinELL. I miss all the fun, I do .... 😆

Helleofabore · 07/07/2025 18:21

Maddy70 · 07/07/2025 18:16

Sorry that was to the previous poster

What was? You answered my post. Thank you for your honesty, I appreciate that you were prepared to go there.

SirChenjins · 07/07/2025 18:19

Did you see my questions @Maddy70 ?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 07/07/2025 18:16

Bingo - another allegation of pearl clutching.
From a poster pontificating about "twinks". Who of course are our teenage and older sons. Something very grim about how the young are objectified by so many grubby old men and the like.

Maddy70 · 07/07/2025 18:16

Sorry that was to the previous poster

Helleofabore · 07/07/2025 18:14

Maddy70 · 07/07/2025 18:13

Of course it's ok if you don't want to wear leather don't... Those that do I frankly don't give a shit. Do whatever you want

You didn't answer the question I asked at all. You have just given an answer to a question I did not ask.

But Ok. You have just said "a child seeing a person in a dog costume (pup play) or carrying a whip in leathers, or wearing a gag mask is all ok to you"

Thank you for confirming that.

Helleofabore · 07/07/2025 18:13

Is this going to be like a repeat of the dogs with butt plugs in IKEA thread?

Maddy70 · 07/07/2025 18:13

Helleofabore · 07/07/2025 18:11

So, a child seeing a person in a dog costume (pup play) or carrying a whip in leathers, or wearing a gag mask is all ok to you?

Of course it's ok if you don't want to wear leather don't... Those that do I frankly don't give a shit. Do whatever you want

Helleofabore · 07/07/2025 18:12

It isn't about the child developing a fetish.

It is about age appropriate exposure to sex and sexual fetishes. It is about children's boundaries and their safeguarding.

Your banana example is disingenuous.

Helleofabore · 07/07/2025 18:11

Maddy70 · 07/07/2025 18:09

Many fetishes include costumes. That doesn't mean that children seeing a costume are going to be affected. If my kids are someone dressed as a banana I don't worry that they will develop a food fetish. So much pearl clutching

So, a child seeing a person in a dog costume (pup play) or carrying a whip in leathers, or wearing a gag mask is all ok to you?

Maddy70 · 07/07/2025 18:09

Many fetishes include costumes. That doesn't mean that children seeing a costume are going to be affected. If my kids are someone dressed as a banana I don't worry that they will develop a food fetish. So much pearl clutching

Helleofabore · 07/07/2025 18:09

What is the significance in describing a preference for a type of person and a fetish that revolves around leather wear? I don't see how this is comparable, and I don't see how someone's preference in what they find attractive for a potential partner to look like is relevant for this discussion about fetish wear at a Pride parade. Am I missing the relevance?