Islington Council slams 'botched' single sex spaces guidance

Before Aida, this thread was about an Islington councillor’s misunderstanding or misrepresentation of the interim guidance. What’s the general view here of the interim guidance section “Asking about birth sex” from which the Islington complaints seem to stem? Do you think there could be improvements to the guidance and examples to head off these kinds of complaint?

Except Article 8 of Convention of Human Rights explicitly protects my trans status, this was affirmed again in T.H. vs Czechia few weeks ago (and outright stated in GRA 2004) that transgender people have to right to keep their transition status private.

That was about repeatedly having to produce documentation that 'outed' the fact that a person was transsexual, presumably in all sorts of situations where sex was not relevant.
Being asked, where necessary, to produce documentation proving your sex in situations where sex is relevant is very unlikely to be an article 8 violation. Digital ID will do this, if the sex marker is linked to birth registered sex.

100%.

GRCs are the most egregious piece of legal fiction ever to be allowed. Revoke the GRA, rescind GRCs.

I agree. Thankfully I know lots that do.

And I disagree with the statement "If he was a woman he’d get it". Plenty of women are prepared to sell out other women when it comes to women's spaces etc. To appease the men with 'feelings'. We see it on here regularly.

Agreed. That’s why most men wouldn’t dream of invading female single sex spaces.

I wouldn't let him off with the excuse that he's a mere man, so can't be expected to understand (or even try to understand). Men are perfectly capable of finding their empathy, and of obeying the law just because that's what decent people do.

Incidentally, I was born in Islington. Shame they don’t give a shit about the vulnerable working class women that still live there.

The blueprint is already in place. If Reform gets in (and I truly hope they do not BTW) they will do something similar to Trump - they will state loud and clear that you cannot pretend to be the opposite sex, you cannot change sex, and that you are NOT entitled to anything that women have fought long and hard for. End of. They won't pussy foot around and ask women not to celebrate that sense has finally prevailed - like the judges of the SC ruling did, like we have to be grateful for crumbs from the male table. They will shout it from the rooftops, because guess what? It's true! Like it has been true since the dawn of time.

I work for a US company (UK subsidiary) and I can tell you, when that EO was signed, the 'about turn' that this company made was beyond belief. Training pulled immediately and re written to be in line with the EO. The beyond parody 'head of inclusion' who tried to tell me that there are three sexes not two when I refused to answer the company's demand for my 'gender identity' and asked her why she didn't want to record sex, has disappeared. The TiF that seemed to be wheeled out any time DEI was mentioned - also disappeared. Why the sudden change? Easy! The company won't get any federal business if they continue with this nonsense.

That's how stable this whole ideology is - the ideology that has infected government, education, NHS, and even the Armed Forces. It can be switched off in a heartbeat because business depends on it.

The end is near - money is at stake.

As always, I am in awe of the continued intelligent responses to the utter madness that appears on this forum.

Women are amazing.

Indeed. Who'd've thunk?

It’s strange how all our male trans visitors have that same condescending word vomit posting style isn’t it. It’s also surprising that only one of them is posting on this thread.

I know, totally shocking

Bigly-letter poverty and classism. 😞 On MN of all places.

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Stealth mode and lifting skirts just brings to mind images of flashers in trenchcoats that used to frequent the parks of my childhood.

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WOOHOO

STEALTH

Stealth. Always think of bombers incinerating children in their own homes. Not a brilliant choice of words there.

It's notable that that was the poster's first post on this thread. Straight in with the sexual offence. Exposure is the go-to action.

No thank you.

I consider it punctuating the point at hand 😁

That's just showing off now.

Nope. I can’t either.

it is all very stealthy isn't it?

Interesting to see that the public face of transactivism is still focused on refusing to follow the law and social contract along with intimidating and bullying women. Oh and with a good dollop of flashing / indecent exposure, moob exposure and pissing on the streets.

Very revealing isn't it? 😂