Keeping Children Safe in Education 2025

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Thank you so much for this. Glad they've held the line re gender questioning children. It gives me hope that the sticky hands of the trans lobby groups have been finally removed from the DfE and that the new guidance will reflect safeguarding and children's needs.

I think I misunderstood your post - of course adults in schools always report - that's their role in safeguarding and yes, our personal views are irrelevant. Apologies.

Well I certainly wouldn’t want my child to be taught by a man who thinks he isn’t

WarriorN · 05/07/2025 07:19

Well, that's rather disturbing. 10 children have been removed by their parents, who are scrabbling around for new places. That's a third of the class.

I wonder what the school and LEA will make of that?

Page 184 lists all the changes in the document.

this is the “July version.”

key thing to note is that the gender questioning parts are no longer draft.

Link

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/keeping-children-safe-in-education--2

These are the key differences I can see wrt the term gender questioning children:

no longer draft, but notes that the GQ guidance will be worked on in the summer and if published will be linked for September.

<cups ears to hear the scrambling of teachers finger tappings, racing to find that draft guidance and actually read it>

very interestingly they’ve identified disinformation, misinformation and conspiracy theories as safeguarding issues.

I noted the parallels with Paloma’s death due to disinformation from her conspiracy theorist mother upthread.

hopefully dis/misinformation about increased suicide risked for gender questioning children etc can be more readily accepted across all children’s services and education, as well as the bloody unions

I believe an update has been released today

He lost his job for telling the mother that the college had socially transitioned the girl.

KCSiE expressly states this is a parental responsibility

He lost his job for telling the mother that the college had socially transitioned the girl.

KCSiE expressly states this is a parental responsibility

yes you flag and report and flag and report

these days with electronic records such as Cpoms etc it’s much easier to access a history. Some of those histories will make interesting reading in this context.

however, it’s those higher up who then make further decisions. Stephen Flagherty reported the fact that the college had socially transitioned a girl without the mother’s knowledge or consent, after 2024 kcsie was published. He lost his job for following guidelines.

search his name and Nottingham college and you can find details of his claim against them

Yes but in this case you'd flag it up the line. You can't ignore kcsie. Isn't it the same as FMG? If you was in a culture where it was standard you want to ignore kcsie if you saw signs as your a firm beliver in FGM. I just think like it or not you leave opinions at the door. You flag up your concerns.

I don't agree it's up to interpretation. It should be followed. All side concerns you flag up.

Like if a kids comes in covered with bruises and filthy clothes. SC pick it up. You have no power in what happens next. Even if that's nothing as is so often the case. You just flag it and escalate again.

Even if you very anti trans unless your the DSL your superior will follow kcsie. When kids like Sara S die, people look to blame. Did you do your statutory duty? You can do more ie follow kcsie and flag concerns but imo never less.

bloody hell. They seem to be aiming for the younger kids too. Or send, from what I’ve heard here and there. Less likely to take the piss, question or refuse to use the language. (Some children with autism who are also very astute may push back of course.)

i completely forgot to link to his case here, apologies. It was on the bbc app this morning but I can’t see it now. But this is the cps write up:

https://www.cps.gov.uk/cps/news/prison-term-legal-first-prosecution-man-who-encouraged-vulnerable-woman-commit-serious

That sounds horrific - I think I recall your previous thread.
I noticed on the AIBU thread about the non binary teacher that there were countless parents saying that little children weren't there to validate a man's narcissistic views about himself.

One of the issues with safeguarding is that situations are often unclear . So discussion, interpretations, nuance etc are always part of deciding whether a situation's abusive or not - which happen under the framework of KCSIE but it's not a straightforward checklist of "this is abuse and this isn't".

I think we're still a long way from society acknowledging that children are being groomed into believing their bodies are flawed but a sex change will cure them. And that parents / adults pushing transgender ideology are being harmful - including the Munchausen transitioning of little children by their parents.

The ease with which dangerous adults were able to capture and impose their niche ideological beliefs on all our safeguarding and educational institutions has been horrific - and we're not yet out of the woods with this. They're embedded and refusing to give up the power they have.

But I do have some optimism - parents are much more prepared to to stand up and protest about this than they were.

Whatever it says, it got to be followed as it's the bible of safeguarding. So anything in reality not point worrying either way. It's not negotiatable once published.

There's zero room for personal views at this level or the entire doc becomes worthless.

Whatever my personal views are on the subject surely that's got to be separated out? For lobbying or complaints offline.

we’ve a very long way to go, however, before this way of thinking about it could be seen as something that needs to be actively addressed within children’s services and education.

Sadly, I think you're right. Thank you for all of the information above.

I guess we may make short hops there. For example, if a school becomes aware that a parent is procuring puberty blockers, they may now see that as a red flag about how well-informed the parent is.

It's obviously also going to take time to unpick the motivation of this type of parent, especially so when the presumed start point is that they are being supportive and kind regarding their child's "gender". Presumably most will genuinely believe that they are well-informed as well as kind - and they've got health professionals telling them that they are.

For that to happen all social workers and Ed psychs etc would need to fully understand and recognise the issues there.

This ⬆️ is the frontline. I would like to see what's written in KCSIE currently (paras 205-209) uplifted into the Working Together to Safeguard Children guidance. Specifically a) the significant difference in risk between being LGB and gender questioning b) recognising that a gender questioning child may have underlying issues such as autism which need understanding.

Educational Psychologists should be able to unpick this. But unfortunately they seem fully captured.

Also things like this that I’ve just seen on Twitter:

https://x.com/katarinahill2/status/1941031085603016880?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

“I have a friend in a senior position in a counselling charity. She told me gender confused children were repeating the same lines to staff, but when staff went deeper the children didn't know what to say. Like they had just learned the phrases..”

its obviously anecdotal but Ritchie Heron has described these “scripts” many times before

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/m001mssm?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile

I’ve been listening to the awful case of Paloma Shemirani on bbc sounds / conspiracy land 2. Mother Kate persuaded her to refuse treatment for cancer, for which she’d have had a really good survival chance. She died. Mother was well known during Covid for spreading disinformation. She’s since made lots of money from snake oil on cancer patients and selling fake vaccine cards etc .

in a later episode an expert social worker talks through the issues with current law around coercion and pressure from people close to an individual- it’s over 10
years old and predates knowledge and law around coercion. There are some parallels around medical disinformation and group think / beliefs, except that in the case of gender shit it’s more deeply embedded across society.

there’s also this case I read today - new laws and convictions around encouraging self harm. It would be unlikely to apply to gender medicine, though Keira Bell has already had success there.

we’ve a very long way to go, however, before this way of thinking about it could be seen as something that needs to be actively addressed within children’s services and education.

especially when there are schools allowing/ encouraging male teachers to introduce themselves to their y2 class as non binary and Mx. https://x.com/journalistjill/status/1940730038988472450?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA