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Theeyeballsinthesky · 01/07/2025 18:53

IwantToRetire · 01/07/2025 17:50

‘If the council had listened to me, this paedophile would have been stopped’
In 2021, reports of a Surrey Pride founder’s ‘abuse of power’ were ignored. Four years on, he’s been jailed for a string of sexual offences
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/07/01/stephen-ireland-surrey-pride-council-warnings/

Can be read in full at https://archive.is/4613J

That article is rage inducing!!!! Even now the denial that anyone at any of the councils in Surrey did anything wrong is cast iron

I see that Pride in Surrey is not a charity so I’m not sure who exactly they’d be reported too 🤔 the police?? Yeah that would have been a huge waste of time

GailBlancheViola · 01/07/2025 18:40

IwantToRetire · 01/07/2025 17:50

‘If the council had listened to me, this paedophile would have been stopped’
In 2021, reports of a Surrey Pride founder’s ‘abuse of power’ were ignored. Four years on, he’s been jailed for a string of sexual offences
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/07/01/stephen-ireland-surrey-pride-council-warnings/

Can be read in full at https://archive.is/4613J

Why am I not in the least surprised that despite warnings nothing was done.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 01/07/2025 17:50

MrsOvertonsWindow · 01/07/2025 10:38

Gloats? Have not read the article and don't plan to, but that's a very inappropriate choice of words. She is pointing out that this predatory paedophile, embarking on a 30-year sentence, had the absolute gall to go after her for pointing out the need for safeguarding. That's not gloating.

IwantToRetire · 01/07/2025 17:50

‘If the council had listened to me, this paedophile would have been stopped’
In 2021, reports of a Surrey Pride founder’s ‘abuse of power’ were ignored. Four years on, he’s been jailed for a string of sexual offences
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/07/01/stephen-ireland-surrey-pride-council-warnings/

Can be read in full at https://archive.is/4613J

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 01/07/2025 17:47

Theeyeballsinthesky · 01/07/2025 08:52

Because beeeeekind
because they brought into the most oppressed ever narrative
because stonewall said so
because ppl they disagree with politically are pointing out the problems
because theyve not thought about it to any great extent
because lots of ppl are terrible at system thinking and joining the dots
because some of them have children & grand children caught up in it

Edited

Spot on, I'm sure. The fourth on your list is undoubtedly one reason why the GRA passed with so little scrutiny or attention - the main person trying to point out the obvious problems in the House of Commons was Norman Tebbit, and it was 2004, the Blair years. A former minister of the Thatcher government, the 'get on your bike' man! Why would anybody listen to a word he said? And so here we are.

Datun · 01/07/2025 14:48

https://thecritic.co.uk/the-lgbtq-movement-has-a-paedophile-problem/

That article as well worth a read. It's rather shocking. Although nothing that the women here haven't been talking about for ages.

It's quite plain to anyone that adult men who want to give children drugs to stunt their growth, is because of a sexual interest. But this disgusting pervert goes even further.

He was a passionate defender of so-called “gender affirming healthcare for children”, which effectively sterilises them. Lo and behold, in hundreds of messages he and his partner David Sutton fantasised about pumping boys full of estrogen — and then castrating them.

It would appear that a castration fetish is really rather prevalent amongst these TRA paedophiles.

We know from past experience that predators gravitate to organisations that don’t take safeguarding seriously. You can measure that seriousness by the reaction to a breach of child protection. In the wake of an abuse case, organisations that really care about child safety register their shock by devoting heightened attention to what went wrong. They treat it as their number one priority to ask questions, overhaul systems and raise awareness to find out whether it was an isolated case.

Malcolm Clark then goes on to list everybody who either deliberately ignored it, or actually still awarded Surrey Pride kudos for all sorts of things.

That's more than giving the benefit of the doubt, or be kind. That's complicity.

And he's right.

We're in an environment where accusing somebody of being a paedophile is just about the most heinous thing you can do, so people are reluctant.

So, loudly and relentlessly, pointing out that safeguarding is on the floor, at the very moment, when an organisation should have been re-doubling their efforts, is probably more palatable.

I can't believe there isn't more to uncover here, either. So many people were falling over themselves to support him.

GailBlancheViola · 01/07/2025 14:47

PsylliumHusky · 01/07/2025 14:12

I still can't get over the fact Surrey Police took him into a 11-16 comprehensive school the same week Surrey Police charged him with these offences.

Me neither. What is Surrey Police's explantion for this? This needs investigating pronto.

EdithStourton · 01/07/2025 14:14

StPancreasPiano · 01/07/2025 08:47

That's what happenes when a sacred caste is created. They're able to openly undermine basic safeguarding for children and nobody dares say a word.

What I cannot understand, for the life of me, is why some women, intelligent women, mothers and grandmothers FFS, celebrate this sacred caste without a thought that it might have potential to be harmful.

What @Theeyeballsinthesky said, plus some people will resist like hell the awful prospect of thinking for themselves - it's hard work, it's risky and it might involve ditching some cherished beliefs.

People will believe some very strange things which run entirely counter to the evidence of their own eyes.

PsylliumHusky · 01/07/2025 14:12

I still can't get over the fact Surrey Police took him into a 11-16 comprehensive school the same week Surrey Police charged him with these offences.

WarriorN · 01/07/2025 14:06

Quite

thirdfiddle · 01/07/2025 14:02

JK Rowling "gloats" ? JK Rowling thoroughly vindicated more like.

StPancreasPiano · 01/07/2025 12:48

Shame has a useful place in society. Shame was a social tool to prevent abhorrent, harmful behaviour, and was a form of safeguarding.
Now we are told we mustn't kink shame

I was surprised but not surprised to see a counsellor advertising among other things that she is 'kink aware' recently. It would be very interesting to know if any of her clients are seeking help with their perversions. Or if that advert attracted them for the other reason. I hope the counsellor is fully aware and has taken steps to protect herself.

You raise a very fair point @TwelvePercent . Why is it the victims who, probably always, feel shame for what was done to them. It is not their/our shame to carry.

TwelvePercent · 01/07/2025 11:46

In a photo, Ireland can be seen holding a lead fastened around the teenage girl’s neck.

I've been thinking a lot recently about Adam Smith and he was right.
Shame has a useful place in society. Shame was a social tool to prevent abhorrent, harmful behaviour, and was a form of safeguarding.

Now we are told we mustn't kink shame and it results in (amongst other weirdness) adults dressed in leather dog costumes being touched by toddlers and a paedo out in public with a teenager on a lead and its accepted.

Overton's window is now a bifold. What a time to be alive.

StPancreasPiano · 01/07/2025 10:52

In just one example of many, the police have so little time that they fined a woman, Shana Grice, who asked for their help and was subsequently murdered by her stalker, for wasting police time yet they have time to escort Stephen Ireland to schools to enable his grooming.

This is the world we live in.

GailBlancheViola · 01/07/2025 10:01

WarriorN · 01/07/2025 07:03

I found it on his time line

https://x.com/jonnywsbell/status/1939738925981159728?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

good. The worst example of hiding in plain sight for a while.

jks post is spot on

It certainly is.

FeistyCat · 01/07/2025 09:54

Anyone that advocates children are chemically sterilised and castrated and never go through puberty is immediately suspect.

thirdfiddle · 01/07/2025 09:25

God this is a gross business. PIE all over again. Thank goodness they were caught and convicted, but can see anyone would regard his former partners and enterprises as suspect at this point. Particularly ones that permit public fetish displays and encourage kids attending.

StPancreasPiano · 01/07/2025 09:10

All of the above @Theeyeballsinthesky makes sense but "because ppl they disagree with politically are pointing out the problems" hadn't occurred to me before and would make sense too.

fromorbit · 01/07/2025 09:08

More coming out. Obviously there is likely to be an ongoing cover up.

Dennis Noel Kavanagh
·
Serious questions now for Surrey Police as to how the former leadership allowed this bloke to exercise such control and power over their operations particularly in respect of his campaign of harassment against the police and crime commissioner Lisa Townsend.

Stephen A Ireland (He/Him)
Apr 7, 2022
The amazing officers and staff at @SurreyPolice @SurreyBeatLGBT do not share the same anti-trans, exclusionary views of the Surrey PPC LisaTownsend. Hate crime of any kind is unacceptable and it should be reported, alternatively please report any hate crime via stophateuk

Theeyeballsinthesky · 01/07/2025 08:52

StPancreasPiano · 01/07/2025 08:47

That's what happenes when a sacred caste is created. They're able to openly undermine basic safeguarding for children and nobody dares say a word.

What I cannot understand, for the life of me, is why some women, intelligent women, mothers and grandmothers FFS, celebrate this sacred caste without a thought that it might have potential to be harmful.

Because beeeeekind
because they brought into the most oppressed ever narrative
because stonewall said so
because ppl they disagree with politically are pointing out the problems
because theyve not thought about it to any great extent
because lots of ppl are terrible at system thinking and joining the dots
because some of them have children & grand children caught up in it

StPancreasPiano · 01/07/2025 08:47

That's what happenes when a sacred caste is created. They're able to openly undermine basic safeguarding for children and nobody dares say a word.

What I cannot understand, for the life of me, is why some women, intelligent women, mothers and grandmothers FFS, celebrate this sacred caste without a thought that it might have potential to be harmful.

RoyalCorgi · 01/07/2025 08:47

WarriorN · 01/07/2025 07:03

I found it on his time line

https://x.com/jonnywsbell/status/1939738925981159728?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

good. The worst example of hiding in plain sight for a while.

jks post is spot on

I've seen the video clip on a couple of timelines, but wondered where it came from originally. When was it recorded? What was the context? Where was it distributed?

Furthermore, has Jordan Gray put out a statement distancing himself from Ireland?

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EdithStourton · 01/07/2025 08:38

WhereYouLeftIt · 30/06/2025 20:30

BBC chose to tuck the Stephen Ireland article safely in the

UK > England > Local News > Surrey section.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2kkrxdpndo

Of course they did.
I haven't bought a copy of the Grauniad in years, and we've given up on the licence fee. Every time something like happens, the chance of me ever doing either of those things again diminishes further.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 01/07/2025 08:34

BeanQuisine · 01/07/2025 08:22

More details about this vile man on Reduxx:

UK: Prominent Pride Activist Sentenced to 30 Years for Multiple Child Sex Offenses, Rape of 12 Year Old Boy

In August of 2024, Reduxx learned that Ireland had further used his influence in the LGBT community to groom and encourage a teen girl to embrace being a transgender “leather pup.”

The earliest messages between Ireland and “Julie” date back to 2018, when she was just 16. One year later, at the August 2019 Pride event, Julie can be seen dressed in “leather pup” fetish gear, a community most associated with gay males that involve sexually submissive partners roleplaying as dogs. In a photo, Ireland can be seen holding a lead fastened around the teenage girl’s neck.

Julie eventually took testosterone, and underwent a double mastectomy and hysterectomy. Ireland spent her 18th birthday with her, while she was wearing the pup fetish gear.

Ireland had previously defended minors being involved in the BDSM community, claiming children “inherently understand everything.”

That's what happenes when a sacred caste is created. They're able to openly undermine basic safeguarding for children and nobody dares say a word.
As the BBC (and other media) have clearly evidenced with their failure to cover this awful case.