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Helen Lewis in the Atlantic - Gender medecine and the suicide lie

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ArabellaScott · 29/06/2025 19:47

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/06/transgender-youth-skrmetti/683350/

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'Trans-rights activists like to accuse skeptics of youth gender medicine—and publications that dare to report their views—of fomenting a “<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/qDisi/theflaw.org/articles/profiting-from-moral-panic/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">moral panic.” But the movement has spent the past decade telling gender-nonconforming children that anyone who tries to restrict access to puberty blockers and hormones is, effectively, trying to kill them. This was false, as Strangio’s answer tacitly conceded. It was also irresponsible.'

The Liberal Misinformation Bubble About Youth Gender Medicine

How the left ended up disbelieving the science

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/06/transgender-youth-skrmetti/683350/?gift=3l4rJ8_CKCSQJY-RUvqVlffZbVIITeB6Pb4CVePywg0

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LeFromage · 29/06/2025 22:42

I think it’s HL’s best contribution so far (“infuriatingly restrained” is perfectly put @ArabellaScott ) she has written for those refusing to climb down off the fence who could, if they’d just take the chance to assess new compelling information. It’s a good article for friends and family who might be looking for an off ramp so I’m bookmarking . But IIRC I found her a bit smug and patronising on BAR podcast last year. Before her misinformation bubble popped and she discovered she’d been leaning on some zombie facts.

UtopiaPlanitia · 29/06/2025 22:25

ArabellaScott · 29/06/2025 22:15

Yes, I suppose so. But it doesn't come off as even-handedness. It comes off as ineffectual and slightly weaksauce.

Just my personal view.

Her personal brand is very much about being as Liberal a Liberal who ever Liberalled.

She is only outdone in this, at times, by Jesse Singal. I find them so annoyingly wishy washy at times because they see the problems inherent in Genderism but refuse to take a principled stance against it. They keep saying there are some kids who might benefit from having their mental development stunted and their bodies sterilised by drugs and surgery.

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ArabellaScott · 29/06/2025 22:15

Yes, I suppose so. But it doesn't come off as even-handedness. It comes off as ineffectual and slightly weaksauce.

Just my personal view.

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borntobequiet · 29/06/2025 21:29

Agree ^

Helleofabore · 29/06/2025 21:13

I think she tries to seem to sit on the fence as much as possible.

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ArabellaScott · 29/06/2025 21:07

I tend to find Lewis' writing on the subject infuriatingly restrained, tbh.

But it's fairly clear, and it's in the Atlantic, so it may help with switherers in the middle.

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fabricstash · 29/06/2025 21:00

Thanks! Good article. I like her honesty and the fact she admits she changed her mind once she saw how weak /false the evidence base was

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 29/06/2025 20:46

Agreed

Nbc I Dont Want To Hear It GIF by Will & Grace
UtopiaPlanitia · 29/06/2025 20:35

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 29/06/2025 20:32

'Because of WPATH’s hostility, many on the American left now believe that the Cass review has been discredited'

Many in this country do as well, which goes to show how much influence the USA has on the TRA's in the UK.

I've come across a lot of comments on all types of social media platforms that say this, I respond with a reply that Cass hasn't been discredited it's WPATH that's in the wrong, but it gets no traction because they're not listening.

So my answer to 'can this misinformation bubble ever be burst?' right now is No.

Multiple ploppers have come to FWR to tell us that Cass has been discredited and refuse to read the links we provide that debunk this zombie myth 😵‍💫

They want Cass to have been discredited and so will not interact with any information that says otherwise.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 29/06/2025 20:32

'Because of WPATH’s hostility, many on the American left now believe that the Cass review has been discredited'

Many in this country do as well, which goes to show how much influence the USA has on the TRA's in the UK.

I've come across a lot of comments on all types of social media platforms that say this, I respond with a reply that Cass hasn't been discredited it's WPATH that's in the wrong, but it gets no traction because they're not listening.

So my answer to 'can this misinformation bubble ever be burst?' right now is No.

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ArabellaScott · 29/06/2025 19:49

(Actual title is 'The Liberal Misinformation Bubble About Youth Gender Medicine', because Helen Lewis is a lot politer than I am.)

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