Mumsnet Obsession With Penises

Better than being a Pathetic Shark!

Tough question. I'm going to say Probably

Question: am I a transshark given I'm attired in a manly suit?

You even have a certificate

If you be beetle, I be shark. 😍

To those shocked by me claiming human form

🪲 I was trying to be funny, but I realize now that creature based deception is unbecoming of a beetle.

🪲 I panicked. I thought maybe if I wasn't a beetle, you'd take me more seriously. Ironically, I now see that I should have been embracing my beetle-ness all along.

🪲 I’ve consulted the Council of Crickets and the Guild of Grasshoppers—I’m officially undergoing humility training. Day one: leaf sweeping.

🪲 I brought snacks to make it up to you. Mostly aphids and a single, slightly crushed blueberry.

I think the penny dropped for me with my brother very early on the subject.

He didn't want to tell me, he was trans because he thought my fiancee was going to be transphobic. He didn't give my fiancee even the opportunity to defend himself. He was 'prejudged'. As in my brother had prejudice against my husband about what he would do, say or think.

Its was a really good exercise in watching behaviour over identity.

As it goes, my husband really didn't give a shit. He's always been less hardline than me over the years, and has gone on many occasions "you can't be right about how far these activists are going, you are exagerrating" to me. Over time he HAS come to realise that my brother and his then partner really weren't outliers - and sadly representative of the militant level extremist TransActivism has attracted who really do need to be told "No, this is unacceptable behaviour. This has nothing to do with your identity or the way you present."

The prejudices of Militant TransActivists need to be highlighted. The levels of homophobia are not a coincidence. They are very much a feature not a bug.

Women here, do not care about identity and appearance of others. They DO care about being told they and their children don't have rights to privacy, dignity and safeguarding. Framing this as bigotted, phobic or otherwise unacceptable is emotional abuse and lacking in due diligence as we can demonstrate the legitimacy of our concerns in multiple respectable and recognised best practices.

I could probably talk about some women's husbands penises quite fondly, not too sure their wives would be happy about it though! But as for my own husband... I'd have to get married first!

I'm an MN mother with a trans identifying child🙋

@Manfreglory Clearly this is a forum for mothers who've never loved and cared for a trans person

My child and I are quite clear that sex cannot be changed.

As a matter of fact, I do love my child, I do support her even though I disagree with her choices and decisions on this matter. And I'm not the only parent in this situation in this site. So no, take your prejudiced assumptions elsewhere.

And you talk about "we" when you refer to transgender people - why if you yourself are not transgender??

Ignorance of anything is never a fully acceptable excuse in a liberal society.

People are capable of going out and educating themselves and understanding principles of rights and wrongs. We live in an international world now. Canada can't say it believes in free speech principles and also prevent discussion of this subject. If Canada wishes to go down this route, it would quickly have to adopt draconian policies that are more at home in China, North Korea and Russia.

"I was just following orders" is not an adequate defence in international criminal courts which Canada recognise and respects.

This is precisely we can right say that this is scary levels authoritarian bullshit that should be resisted by the UK in order to stop us turning into cultlike muppets who blindly follow what we are told in an unthinking way.

Canada, can get in the bin with its homophobic, sexist regressive bullshit. Sex is real. This is the UK and this is a UK forum subject to UK laws. If Canadians don't want to read i t, they don't have to come here. If Canadians have a problem with MN they can start putting up the Great Firewall of Canada at their own expense and admit they have become an Authoritarian State. Given Canada's own identity as a liberal country and issues with its big neighbour this would be quite the thing to do... I can see attempts to do so lasting all of about five seconds and thats WITHOUT consideration of who the current US President is.

The idea that Canadians can be THIS indoctrined, without it being an active choice at some level, is absolute nonsense. ESPECIALLY, when you've actively managed to find, log in, post on MN to do some scolding of the Nasty Evil Women and read the replies of the women (and men) here.

No, posters who do that, do so because they don't value debate. They do so because they value themselves and their own identity above the subject matter. They don't WANT to engage. They get off, on trying to 'punish' or 'show up' posters here. Thats why they are Bad Faith posters.They don't want to deal with the difficult questions.

Me too, @DeanElderberry - I am shocked, I tell you - shocked!

but

but

BUT

have you been lying to me?

I remain eternally grateful no adult actually thought 4 year old me was serious when I said I was a boiled beetle on a blistering hot day in the summer of 1976. Thankfully nearly 50 years later they still don't actually believe I believe I'm a boiled beetle

The Be Kind thing was strong. But also that we have a mutual 'transwoman' friend, who is lovely.

The ironic thing is that the 'transwoman' friend has never described himself to me (or her) as such. He just likes wearing 'women's' clothes. He describes himself as 'he'.

He also thinks that anyone's self assessment of themselves is likely to be bollocks, because people believe all sorts of crap about themselves that is objectively nonsense.

So... My best friend who thinks she is a feminist has looked me straight in the eye and told me (quite condescendingly, actually) that people can change biological sex in support of a man who believes no such thing.

And I now find it difficult to take anything she says seriously.

It is so so sad.

https://www.gousto.co.uk/cookbook/recipes/joes-meat-free-meatball-masala

Its meant to be made with meat free meatballs, but no reason you cant use beef or pork.

Growing up my mum used to roll a whole banana in desiccated coconut and then wrap it in tinfoil and freeze it. Cheep-o icy treat! Even better if you dip part of it in melted chocolate after you take it out (though that one I learned as an adult).

This is really interesting, thanks. I think I need to research more about curry!

There is no such thing as a trans child and no such thing as trans either. That being the case women on here (and elsewhere) would still be interested in supporting and fighting for our sex-segregated spaces against men who 'think' they are women.

Not in the curry. You have sliced banana rolled in desiccated coconut as a side dish. It's nice!

Two different posts advocating putting sliced banana in curry.

There's such a thing as going too far y'know.

I don’t think I’ll ever get over the piano thing…. If ever there was a words fail me moment- that was it!

We all remember that book by a Mumsnetter, "A heartbreaking work of staggering penis", don't we?

Or the time a Mumsnetter played the piano on Channel 4 with her penis.

Or the time a Mumsnetter graffit'd the words "Suck my dick" outside a FiLiA conference.

Oh hang on. No. They were all trans activists. Silly me.

The children that have been raped in public toilets are from more vulnerable backgrounds. Although I do not know the demographics of schools, what I think is true of any background, is that many go unreported.

When you start to research you start to see patterns and it’s horrifying.

For example, in the EHRC consultation due in before 11.59pm today
At example 13.3.15 there’s this: The cubicles have floor to ceiling lockable doors and there have been no complaints about inappropriate conduct in the changing rooms.
This is really, really not a justification for mixed sex spaces that they think it is.

As far as ‘lockable’ and ‘secure’ toilet cubicles go, none are truly secure as in building regs you need to be able to open the door from the outside outwards as it is so well known that bodies impede access otherwise.

Really? OP appears to be misinformed about more than just trans issues then since curry has been a popular/common dish in the UK since at least Victorian times. I doubt it was viewed as particularly odd in the '50s.

Agreed. I was just questioning the idea that this has to be a younger person.