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Mumsnet Obsession With Penises

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Manfreglory · 29/06/2025 18:33

My controversial opinion is that most of the Mums who obsess here over penises, uteruses and chromosomes, would pick more important and interesting topics if their own child was trans.

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GargoylesofBeelzebub · 29/06/2025 19:59

Here's how it works.

Penis you consented to see: Fine
Penis you didn't consent to see: sex offence

It's not that hard.

Manfreglory · 29/06/2025 19:58

PractisingMyTelekenipsis · 29/06/2025 19:55

Oh and by the way that rapist who pretended to be trans and raped women in a prison: not trans. A man. A fucking deceitful, violent, perverted sex offending man in a dress. Get it right.

How dare you deny their identity. Transphobe.
How TF can i tell if the TW in the women's changing room is genuine or not?

And FWIW my abuser often said how it was a shame he couldn't come into the ladies with me/volunteer to help on Guide camp "so we can be together more often"
These days he could just claim to be trans and be there.

So that's why I say no to all TW. Because I don't know which ones are 'genuine'

The elderly woman who tried to pick me up when I was 14 was a "genuine woman".

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Igneococcus · 29/06/2025 19:58

How do you tell a predatory man from a transwoman?

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/06/2025 19:58

Manfreglory · 29/06/2025 19:55

This doesn't even make sense.

Of course it does. Are you quite alright?

Anyway, thanks to the Supreme Court confirming that men who believe they are women shouldn't be in women's spaces, if we see a man in a women's spaces we no longer have to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Igneococcus · 29/06/2025 19:57

If a man wants to go in a toilet and attack a woman, he will do it.

Yeah, so lets make it even easier for abusive men by calling all women hateful bigots who dare challenge a man coming into female spaces.

Manfreglory · 29/06/2025 19:55

Maowt · 29/06/2025 19:53

If a man wants to go in a toilet and attack a woman, he will do it.

If a person wants to break into your house they’ll do it. So I guess you may as well leave all windows and doors unlocked and wide open next time you’re on holiday or even just overnight. May as well just leave your keys in your car. If someone wants to steal it they will so why bother trying to stop it happening?

This doesn't even make sense.

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PractisingMyTelekenipsis · 29/06/2025 19:55

Oh and by the way that rapist who pretended to be trans and raped women in a prison: not trans. A man. A fucking deceitful, violent, perverted sex offending man in a dress. Get it right.

How dare you deny their identity. Transphobe.
How TF can i tell if the TW in the women's changing room is genuine or not?

And FWIW my abuser often said how it was a shame he couldn't come into the ladies with me/volunteer to help on Guide camp "so we can be together more often"
These days he could just claim to be trans and be there.

So that's why I say no to all TW. Because I don't know which ones are 'genuine'

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/06/2025 19:55

Manfreglory · 29/06/2025 19:40

I grew up in the 80's; had my bum fondled on a staircase aged 7; was flashed at, cat called and had 'whore' shouted at me as a frightened teen...by men. I was terrified walking home from the bus stop - I used to take my shoes off and run. I once had a lesbian try to pick me up on the tube (so women can be invasive abusive dicks too but that's another point). You're all directing your vitriol at trans women when since the beginning of time it is men hurting women, not trans women hurting women.

Yeah I know you'll all scream "but trans women are MEN" but even if that's the case, why centre your fury around them and not, er, actual man-identifying MEN. Oh and by the way that rapist who pretended to be trans and raped women in a prison: not trans. A man. A fucking deceitful, violent, perverted sex offending man in a dress. Get it right.

You talk so fondly about your husbands' penises yet if a trans woman has one, it's the enemy. At heart, this is all rage and hatred against people who are not "normal" and don't look or identify how you'd prefer them to look and identify. Did you know that in 19th century South Africa black people were termed "non human?". Substitute "trans" for "black" and "not women" for "not human" and then see how your hatred is working for you.

Great, can you tell us how we let people who really are trans into single sex spaces for the opposite sex and keep the ones who are just pretending out?

Literally, talk us through how you think that policy would work in practice.

By the way, trying to draw an analogy with race here is incredibly racist.

plantsdieinmyhouse · 29/06/2025 19:54

There is no such thing as a trans child.

Helpmeplease2025 · 29/06/2025 19:54

You talk so fondly about your husbands' penises yet if a trans woman has one, it's the enemy.

My husbands penis is lovely, but it stays out of women’s spaces. As he is a man. As is anyone with a penis. Even if it’s chopped off, turned inside out, or waving around wildly under a dress. Its owner is a MAN

Maowt · 29/06/2025 19:53

If a man wants to go in a toilet and attack a woman, he will do it.

If a person wants to break into your house they’ll do it. So I guess you may as well leave all windows and doors unlocked and wide open next time you’re on holiday or even just overnight. May as well just leave your keys in your car. If someone wants to steal it they will so why bother trying to stop it happening?

WhyWouldAnyone · 29/06/2025 19:53

It's not the mums on Mumsnet trying to gain access to places they dont belong, is it? I'd argue it's not mums who are obsessing about penises.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/06/2025 19:53

Drfosters · 29/06/2025 19:50

You talk so fondly about your husbands' penises yet if a trans woman has one, it's the enemy.

In my view, anyone exposing their penis to someone of the opposite sex whether it is in the street or in the changing room, it is indecent exposure and should be treated as a sexual crime.

I don't want to see any penis I haven't consented to seeing.

And the only penises I consent to seeing are my husband's and my (very young) son's.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/06/2025 19:50

Manfreglory · 29/06/2025 19:46

And trans women are not women, so it's fine to shove THEM under the bus.

No, they're not women. Telling them they can't use single sex spaces for members of the opposite sex isn't shoving them under the bus. Literally nobody else has the right to do that, so why should trans people?

Drfosters · 29/06/2025 19:50

Manfreglory · 29/06/2025 19:40

I grew up in the 80's; had my bum fondled on a staircase aged 7; was flashed at, cat called and had 'whore' shouted at me as a frightened teen...by men. I was terrified walking home from the bus stop - I used to take my shoes off and run. I once had a lesbian try to pick me up on the tube (so women can be invasive abusive dicks too but that's another point). You're all directing your vitriol at trans women when since the beginning of time it is men hurting women, not trans women hurting women.

Yeah I know you'll all scream "but trans women are MEN" but even if that's the case, why centre your fury around them and not, er, actual man-identifying MEN. Oh and by the way that rapist who pretended to be trans and raped women in a prison: not trans. A man. A fucking deceitful, violent, perverted sex offending man in a dress. Get it right.

You talk so fondly about your husbands' penises yet if a trans woman has one, it's the enemy. At heart, this is all rage and hatred against people who are not "normal" and don't look or identify how you'd prefer them to look and identify. Did you know that in 19th century South Africa black people were termed "non human?". Substitute "trans" for "black" and "not women" for "not human" and then see how your hatred is working for you.

You talk so fondly about your husbands' penises yet if a trans woman has one, it's the enemy.

In my view, anyone exposing their penis to someone of the opposite sex whether it is in the street or in the changing room, it is indecent exposure and should be treated as a sexual crime.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 29/06/2025 19:50

You talk so fondly about your husbands' penises

I fear you may have me confused with somebody else

this thread is shaping up to deliver some entertaining lunacy

RhaenysRocks · 29/06/2025 19:50

Manfreglory · 29/06/2025 19:40

I grew up in the 80's; had my bum fondled on a staircase aged 7; was flashed at, cat called and had 'whore' shouted at me as a frightened teen...by men. I was terrified walking home from the bus stop - I used to take my shoes off and run. I once had a lesbian try to pick me up on the tube (so women can be invasive abusive dicks too but that's another point). You're all directing your vitriol at trans women when since the beginning of time it is men hurting women, not trans women hurting women.

Yeah I know you'll all scream "but trans women are MEN" but even if that's the case, why centre your fury around them and not, er, actual man-identifying MEN. Oh and by the way that rapist who pretended to be trans and raped women in a prison: not trans. A man. A fucking deceitful, violent, perverted sex offending man in a dress. Get it right.

You talk so fondly about your husbands' penises yet if a trans woman has one, it's the enemy. At heart, this is all rage and hatred against people who are not "normal" and don't look or identify how you'd prefer them to look and identify. Did you know that in 19th century South Africa black people were termed "non human?". Substitute "trans" for "black" and "not women" for "not human" and then see how your hatred is working for you.

I think you'll find there's plenty of vitriol for all men who misuse their male strength and penis to attack, Intimidate and frighten women. The fact that some have chosen to wear "female" clothes and change their names while doing it is secondary. The % of the population who are trans is (I think) 0.1 so statistically it is far less likely that it is a male person presenting as female that attacks someone than a common or garden male but their "identity" had allowed them, in recent years, easier access to traditionally safe spaces. Hence the "vitriol". But there's plenty to go round, don't worry.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/06/2025 19:49

StMarie4me · 29/06/2025 19:28

At 62 I have known many many women who have been attacked, physically and sexually, myself included. Not ONE has ever been attacked by a trans woman.

If a man wants to go in a toilet and attack a woman, he will do it.

You have all been radicalised into hate by JKR. OP is correct. You’re all obsessed.

You have all been radicalised into hate by JKR.

Only very stupid people say things like this.

In your case I'm willing to entertain the possibility that it is satire.

spannasaurus · 29/06/2025 19:47

Oh and by the way that rapist who pretended to be trans and raped women in a prison: not trans. A man. A fucking deceitful, violent, perverted sex offending man in a dress. Get it right.

I'm not sure which man OP is referring to as there's quite a number to choose from

Manfreglory · 29/06/2025 19:46

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/06/2025 19:45

Women who think it's cool to shove other women under the bus do make me angry, yes.

And trans women are not women, so it's fine to shove THEM under the bus.

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Neemie · 29/06/2025 19:46

To be fair, trans people could also be accused of being obsessed with penises: having one, not having one, wanting one, not wanting one, wanting something despite having one, wanting people to turn a blind eye to their one…

vodkaredbullgirl · 29/06/2025 19:45

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MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/06/2025 19:45

Manfreglory · 29/06/2025 19:01

Angry much?

Women who think it's cool to shove other women under the bus do make me angry, yes.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/06/2025 19:44

If a person has a penis he's a man, OP.

If he used to have a penis he's also a man.

HTH.

corlan · 29/06/2025 19:43

Manfreglory · 29/06/2025 19:42

Written by a trans woman I suppose!

Er, no? Written by a man. Translated into English by a man.
You seem to be missing the point.

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